UN, Hamas Lied in Saying Israel Attacked Gaza school

Give the Palestinian Arabs what they want, and the rocket attacks on Israel will continue regardless. Same story today as it was in '67. The death of Jews and destruction of Israel remains their only real goal.. They could have had their own state twice, but refused because they want it all. Gaza is the way it is because of this and all of the twisted facts and antisemitic agendas in the world won't change that.

From the same Globe and Mail article at the centre of this argument:

Mr. Ging blames the Israelis for the confusion over where the victims were killed. "They even came out with a video that purported to show gunmen in the schoolyard. But we had seen it before," he said, "in 2007."

The Israelis are the ones, he said, who got everyone thinking the deaths occurred inside the school.

"Look at my statements," he said. "I never said anyone was killed in the school. Our officials never made any such allegation."

I hope everybody commenting here has diligently read that source?

Con10t,

That article said nothing of the sort. If it all makes you want to throw up though, please do it without vomiting all over what other people say.

Thanks.

I read the article.  Mr. Ging states;

"I know no one was killed in the school," Mr. Ging said. "But 41 innocent people were killed in the street outside the school. Many of those people had taken refuge in the school and wandered out onto the street."

If they're taking refuge in the school why were they wandering out onto the street?

Also, why are there UN schools in Gaza?  Hamas has all kinds of money.  Read the story in the Telegraph (UK).  Why aren't they using their funds to educate their children? 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4414395/How-Hamas-is-reasserting-itself-in-Gaza-using-money-manpower-and-force.html

And if Hamas has the wherewithal to smuggle weapons into Gaza why can't they bring in food and medicine to help their people?

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE50I1TG20090119

By providing food, medicine, and etc the UN relieves Hamas of these responsiblites and allows them to use their resources for war.  The UN should get out of Gaza and perhaps the Gazans will demand the services governments are expected to provide.

Well said gahooch.

You asked questions about money? You want answers?

Go ask Arafat's family and ex-collaborators. I'm sure they would have some interesting answers.....Mind you, they live in tax exile in Switzerland or some Banana republic right now, so they are surely too busy having fun on their yachts to answer.............

Hi Red Cyclon,

I just checked out your "proof".

Nothing there shows dead children in that (or any) school, nothing even showed refugees in that (or any) school, and the only pics that that DO show bombing clearly show that the bulk of fire fell outside the building. 

The only pic that shows interior damage to a building shows damage done a long time before the pic was taken (no smoke, flames etcetera) and therefore could have been taken anywhere.

Any more "proof"?

Thanks.

The same article and israeli newspaper you quote, states that the Gazan kids were mass murdered by Israel outside the school and not inside the school. What sort of a sick world of denial are you hoping people move into?

Your article goes on to say:

"Gaylord said that the UN "would like to clarify that the shelling and all of the fatalities took place outside and not inside the school."

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UNRWA, an agency whose sole purpose is to work with Palestinian refugees, said in response Tuesday that it had maintained from the day of attack that the wounded were outside of the school compound. UNRWA said that the source of the mistake in recent weeks had originated with a separate branch of the United Nations."

And of course in a mass murder of civilian operation like Israel conducted on Gazans, keeping the media out does not help the UN instantly get to the exact murder timeline and placement. Now they have. It is not a lie. It is due to the covert nature and keeping the media out of a bloodbath of child murderes from israel inside Gaza.
The story makes me want to throw up with its innuendo that could not be more than denial and inhumane.

It is not my story and the UN has confirmed that Israel did not attack the school.

The fact is the original story was a propaganda lie.

IN war an army is allowed to shoot at anyone who shoots at them.

Hamas placed fighters near the school.

There are several sources for this story.

If you can, prove the first story is true.

con 10t

You need to read.  It said no such thing.

It said civilians were killed.  A huge difference.

Firing at armed men outside a school is not a crime and is not murder.

You also need to read a dictionary. Hamas has murdered more Gazans than Israel has killed.

So how do you feel about terrorists-Hamas-who say they will murder Jewish children world wide. that Jewish children are legitimate targets? Dow is your stomach when you defend them?

Please remember that personal attacks are not welcomed and if necessary we will start editing your comments, so there will be no point writing a personal attack in the first place.

"The school"? can you give us a link which shows "the school" with dead bodies in it?

If you can't, can anyone else?

ncytuber.

It is clear some people do not see murder of Jews as murder.

Ah, you again Con10t, with your unfounded denials. Can you give us any links or photos (you who are a net person) to show us that the article has it wrong?

This is an article on a news site on the internet. If you have "proof" that what the author says is wrong, please post it.....

....if not, go to youtube and chat with the other college kids about how 9/11 was done by Bush.

Thanks.

con 10t

Remarks like this will only cause thinking people to ignore anything you say.

Have you once condemned Hamas killing of Jewish children?  NO.  Why not.

You have become exactly what you accuse others of being. You only condemn Jews, not those who kill Jewish children.

If the Hamas cowards had not been shooting near the school not one child there would have died.

All you do with personal attacks is to show yourself as one sided and you have ignored many chances to condemn the murder of Jewish children.  There is a name for that.

I also hope you read the stories and charges made right after January 9 about this.

The charges child murder are thrown around too loosely. War is killing, heavily armed men shooting at each other. War is hell and often civilians, even children, are caught in the middle.

The whole war was a tragedy that should have never happened.

Amen.

Anything else is just hypothetical and armchair-safe theory. (And yes, I have seen that for real, thanks).

Mr.Ging blames Israel . However, after a quick and brief denial they admitted espacily with a fake video,claimed  Hamas fighters were firing rockets from the school,was counter productive.. No amount of propaganda by Haaretz, or the like ,will change that fact that Israel targeted the UNAWA compound where over a thousand civillians were taking refugee.

The Israeli barbaric behaviour and war crimes must not be accepted;

Follow the ling for more evidence and proof.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34104316@N06/?saved=1

Hamas>>> We will kill Jewish children worldwide.  Jewish children are a legitimate target.

When you condemn that then you have standing to condemn Israel.

If Israel, with its massive firepower had deliberately fired at that compound 1000 would have died.

Yip, but I still haven't even seen proof that all those supposed refugees were even there in the first place.

Photos anyone?

Waiting for "proof"......

hi Fripouille

I am sorry if you feel otherwise. I meant no harm since I could not load the photos with the format on my desk.

Also thanks for the plug

Firing at armed men in the streets near a school is not a war crime. OK, let's say it is a "war crime".

All this energy on Israel's response to provocation and no energy at all devoted to the condemnation of Hamas.

Why? Because launching rockets which hit the civilian population of Israel is NOT a "war crime"?

Hiding out in and near schools after you fire the rockets is NOT a "war crime" ?

Would someone please put up photos showing the hundreds of people who were supposed to be sheltering there? I can't, quite sincerely, find any.....

Thanks

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It's incredible the power Israel has on USA, Europe and the UN. Here we are the people not politicians trying to make ourselves heard, to just have everything denied by the UN. We saw the video of the school and the dead bodies. The school was probably the strongest case for a trial against Israel, which explains why it is so convinient to just deny it. 

Your story from Israel is a lie. It distorts the truth.

What sort of ammunition was used? A blast bomb? Only one bomb. The UN is discussing only part of the child murder attack by IDF.

What is near in your truth? 13meters or 310 meters (that would be beyond the child murder zone for the ammunition used by IDF?

Back it up or take it home. Dig.

The IDF likes to massacre kids when they are out playing. I guess that is more fun for perverted Israeli child murderers. Getting them while they study - only 12 inside the school were injured in fact - is not so appeal and the white phosphorus used doesnt give its money worth to sick child murdering types 158 defends.

The press in Australia writes about  the type of report 158 propagandizes:

"John Ging, UNRWA's operations director in Gaza, acknowledged in an interview this week that all three Israeli mortar shells landed outside the school and that "no one was killed in the school".

"Look at my statements," he said. "I never said anyone was killed in the school. Our officials never made any such allegation.""

There is no lie. The children murdered by Israel have not been reborn. he maimed havent grown legs back, or fingers or eyes. No 158, it is not a lie. It is only the difficulty of instant reporting when a mass murdering nation like Israel keeps the press and human rights agencies out of their bloodbath zone like the UN school.

Near, what does that mean with the 300-meter blasting scrapnel weapons used by IDF. Just outside playing is that not near enough? It was to murder 43 children for the sickos from Israel.

It's just appalling you coulde even imagine posting such drivel when children were murdered. MAybe you could start an OJ Simpson or Scott PEterson blog as well. What a waste of my time.

Gahooch,

Thanks for this comment.  We very much need to look at what Hamas is doing and not doing.