US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive

by Roy C | June 12, 2009 at 02:00 pm
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In what is one of the most amazing example of "what goes up, must come down", the proposal is afoot to bulldoze larger American cities with huge neighborhoods that no longer have numbers great enough to sustain the city in which they were incorporated.

If the cities in such condition do not downsize, they will go bankrupt.

Some cities will then be broken up into smaller townships with the bulldozed land returned to parks and wilderness in a proposal first developed by Dan Kildee, treasurer of Flint County, Michigan.

This plan is now being examined by the Obama administration to be carried out nation-wide.

I suppose we could say it will be a man-made "Life Without People", the name of a series of the History Channel that examines what would happen if people suddenly disappeared from the Earth.

US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive

Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.

By Tom Leonard in Flint, Michigan.

Published: 6:30PM BST 12 Jun 2009

The government looking at expanding a pioneering scheme in Flint, one of the poorest US cities, which involves razing entire districts and returning the land to nature.

Local politicians believe the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.

The radical experiment is the brainchild of Dan Kildee, treasurer of Genesee County, which includes Flint.

Having outlined his strategy to Barack Obama during the election campaign, Mr Kildee has now been approached by the US government and a group of charities who want him to apply what he has learnt to the rest of the country.

Mr Kildee said he will concentrate on 50 cities, identified in a recent study by the Brookings Institution, an influential Washington think-tank, as potentially needing to shrink substantially to cope with their declining fortunes.

Most are former industrial cities in the "rust belt" of America's Mid-West and North East. They include Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Memphis.

In Detroit, shattered by the woes of the US car industry, there are already plans to split it into a collection of small urban centres separated from each other by countryside.

"The real question is not whether these cities shrink – we're all shrinking – but whether we let it happen in a destructive or sustainable way," said Mr Kildee. "Decline is a fact of life in Flint. Resisting it is like resisting gravity."

Karina Pallagst, director of the Shrinking Cities in a Global Perspective programme at the University of California, Berkeley, said there was "both a cultural and political taboo" about admitting decline in America.

"Places like Flint have hit rock bottom. They're at the point where it's better to start knocking a lot of buildings down," she said.

Flint, sixty miles north of Detroit, was the original home of General Motors. The car giant once employed 79,000 local people but that figure has shrunk to around 8,000.

Unemployment is now approaching 20 per cent and the total population has almost halved to 110,000.

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Barbara McPherson

I had no idea that city populations were dwindling.  Are people migrating to other cities? 

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Roy C

Yes. A lot, by the way.

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amyjudd

I'm not surprised about Flint, I wonder what other cities they are considering?

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Paschen

Container houses would help here, this model can grow and retract as needed not only for cities but also for families, growing as the family grows and retracting again as it decreases.

It has been successfully tried in France, Germany, the Netherlands and the UK.

It is cost effective, environment friendly and practical.



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Steve McLoughlin

I have been saying this for 2 years.  During the Depression, the government paid farmers not to grow crops and they killed pigs and cows.

Why keep these areas around when they outlived their use?

I also say that they should have left New Orleans go.  Build a new city away from the water so we don't have to keep pouring our tax money down the hole.  

Have the government condemn the property, give the people a check and let them start their lives elsewhere.  It would have been cheaper for the government to do it this way.

I read somewhere that it cost the government over $250,000.00 per person to save New Orleans.  I am sure a lot of those people would rather have been given a check.

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Chales

Be sure of one thing,if it costs 250 000 per person to save new orleans,95 % of this money went directly in the pockets of contractors and the politicians that have their shares in this,and everytime the government expropriates land,it s for giving it to private interests at low cost,very low cost.look at '' the OBAMA DECEPTION'' and ''RISE OF THE POLICE STATE'',''TERRORSTORM''.and ''ENDGAME'' all ond google video or youtube.lots of important onformations.

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Roy C

There is a lot of truth in what you say, especially about pre-fab housing. Reduce costs, and put it were you need it as you need it.

New Orleans. Good example.


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Spydermonkey

I like the idea of putting green spaces back in to the cities.  If you were to give(sell cheaply) to people who will agree to use it for a garden space &or a comunity garden space, it might start a close comunity.  That would be a good goal I think.

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duo

It is sad, but I can see something like that happening in Detroit.

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Steve Redder

The first building that needs to be razed in Detroit is city hall with the city council inside . Followed by the building the city of Detroit school board meets again with the board inside. Then you can raze the abandoned buildings in Detroit , Flint etc

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Chris J

These plans make a lot of sense, but lets look at the big picture here.

While some of these Michigan cities are in areas that have shrunk over all because of economic changes, many others are abandoned because of white flight and the suburban "dream."  Baltimore comes to mind here, and even those cities that are in areas that are shrinking over all (Buffalo) have growing suburbs! 

So - long term - it looks like we wasted to build miles out, abandoned what we had and now we're wasting those resources.  I sure hope they're at least recycling those building materials.

Again, this dismantling makes sense, but lets be smart about it.  Lets move to regional governments and cooperative village councils - so that suburbs and cities are not competing - and introduce ecological planning to these new regional governments that involve urban centers with connected by rail, bus and bike paths - all broken up by organic agriculture and wildlife habitat corridors.  Also, ABSOLUTELY NO SPRAWL, development would have to happen in the Urban/Rural patchwork until population growth theatenes the agricultural/natural habitat integrity of the region - only then would development be allowed to expand outward.

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jazzyzazzy

I did not know about the container homes Paschen,sounds like a good compromise.

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delquattro

Out of thirteen responses, Steve Redder is the only one who comes close to understanding the cause of the problem.

After years of Democrat control, Democrats have so totally ruined these cities that the best solution is to bulldoze them?  Now, that's utopia!  And Barry Soetoro wants to do for the rest of America what Democrat rule has done for Michigan!  Hey, but maybe things will improve now that Barry is running GM & Chrysler. /sarcasm

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bettermakings

i agree that the most democratically-run places are the ones in this ruin.

i also think that the idea of destroying certain sections of the cities could be good, as long as the power is not abused, and no one is forced to leave.

on the other hand, cities like Detroit do have many abandoned houses that should have been destroyed already, they just don't have the money to bulldoze them.  where will the money come from?  taxpayers?

(sarcastic?) best solution:  bring back "Devil's Night" so the kids can burn down all the abandoned houses & buildings themselves.  (Oct. 30 more recently was re-named "Angel's Night", with neighborhood crime watches to stop that from happening)

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J. E. MacMillan

How can they afford to do this? Won't they have to buy the property/buildings which they wish to destroy from the owners at fair market price? What about the people who refuse to move? Are they going to force them to move? How can that happen in America?

It seems silly to knock down sturdy buildings just because they are empty. Better solution, I would think, would be to adjust taxes down and create an environment encouraging of businesses and industry so that employers will move into the empty buildings and give people a reason to move into the houses. Give people a reason to come and, rather than knocking down perfectly good buildings, they may find themselves in the desireable situation of needing to build more.

 

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unbelevable

brainwashed .all of you

 

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BalthizarLucienClandestine

The idea of "knocking down" buildings is one that needs to have heavy regulation. if i were, say, to rent a buldozer and drive willy nilly through the structures of quote un quote abandoned  detroit then the area would more quickly return to nature; but as Chris J said, it would be a waste of resources. systemattically dismantling, recycling and/or storing the materials for further use would be a much better solution. 

I agree with Chris J almost completly except we should avoid urban sprawl just as we would (and do) avoid dumping nuclear waste in our front yards. there are many innovations out there which would provide humans the means to exist in a tenth or less space then we currently occupy. look at Sky City (google it if you dont know it) designed by the japanese. that structure could house significantly large populations and by all rights things like that should have already begun to replace our urban centers as he put it. 

Pashen had the right idea too. container homes or modular style homes should definatly be used when and where possible for our suburbs because most people who live in suburbs have a home ownership average of about 10 -15 years, thats it. if the house was modular it could be disassembled and re assembled elsewhere as a new house.

I have a requirement that should be added to the mix. I feel that the federal government should initiate a national building standard . like the local building codes do now, they would regulate the minimum and optimum standards for new construction, remodling ect of homes and other structures. unlike most building codes now though this federal standard would require that all work must meet a minimum environment rating as well. this would not only improve public health but also the health of the natural areas around the homes we build.

As far as government is concerned, the current structure functions on its most basic levels but needs some serious tweeking. i think that all sub urban areas (towns, hamlets, suburbs ect) should have a council of elected officials to manage the population center. and the format of this council would also be used to govern larger cites  and metropoli as well but in a slightly different fashion.

the council structure for a small population center is thus:

Environmental Manager

Agriculture Officer

Habitat Officer

Finance Manager

Transportation Manager

Energy Resource Manager

Chair of the Educational Council

Commisioner

Chair of the Board of Medicine

These officials would be public electies and would have fixed terms. larger cities would have sub councils for each office.

with these changes i think we may just survive as a species.

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Jude Moriarty

Naturally, there are  altruistic reasons for tearing down perfectly good homes. Right - we're all (those left) going to enjoy meadows of flowers - woods with trails blah blah. What a bunch of happy horsesh*t. Ya won't see Hyde Park - Kennebunkport - Jackson Hole Wyoming - Hyannis Port enclaves suffering such assaults. The problem is we (past few decades) have been systematically dumbed down to mud/ kept ignorant of larger plans to contain the population (worker bees - serfs ). Little to nothing has been made public on Agenda 21 - Rewilding of America - Sustainable Living Communities (Google and find out). Hundreds of thousands are homeless today - living in TENT cities, i.e. Seattle - Hawaii - Florida - Cape Cod - Californium etc. New homes are being bulldozed under in Nevada and California! Why in God's name would we house the homeless - made thus due to the deindustrailization of America! Attention- the media (corporate owned) would have you believe that the homeless are losers - addicts - the dregs of society. There are dregs (we all know) who have their flaws - drugs - boozing -partying - philandering - etc whose MONEY keeps them from any and all accountability. Many homeless  today, once  worked in steel mills - textile plants - paper mills - Whirlpool - Maytag - Hersey Town USA - IBM - et al. Gone thanks to Republicans & Democrats who sold (trade agreements) their constituents down the river! The push is on (wake up) to cull the herd. What do you think this phony health business is about? IF they wanted decent, affordable care for all --simple; give citizens the SAME coverage that politicians possess. Note,  that they voted NOT to obtain the health plan they are pushing on citizens! There will be Gold Card (politic ans - wealthy) coverage and Medicaid on steroids for the masses. While Ms.Palin, put it in drastic language (Death Panels), what do you call a 26 member Advisory Committee who will be determining (not doctors by the way) who gets what surgery - treatments - medications. It's called 'rationing'. Now if I'm 65 or over - and need a heart valve replacement, such as Mrs. Bush received at age 85 -this 'rationing' committee,  will decide that given my age - no longer a worker bee (taxpayer); it is simply not 'cost effective' to keep me hanging around. Thus a 'death sentence'. It's all a matter of semantics but dead is dead eh? This push to bulldoze, is simply a part of the grander plan - to 'contain - control' (those left) workers (maids - gardeners - mechanics - clerks -hairdressers - caddies - laborers- snow makers - bell hops - janitors - tellers - florists et al) needed for the priviledged into sustainable living environments / and the new term (nation wide) work force housing, better known as the company housing of old. People stacked up like cord wood - in multi family/projects able to walk to work or drive in one of their sardine can junkers (cheap cars for workers). Not a car to travel in,  that's for sure. No need for car seats - air bags - or seat belts in these skateboard size cars,   a hamster wheel for an engine. A truck (from Mexico - bald tires, no brakes) hits ya and they won't find the body parts. They'll be no more home ownership for the working man as the middle class is being demolished duh! New hires at Government Motors (scene of the future) are paid $12 per  hr, no pensions, no health benefits. Try buying a house on this or sending your kid to college. No more unions thus no more middle class, livable wage, job security - safety etc. MILLIONS of immigrants,from not only Mexico, but India - Somalia, Kenya, Philippines, Bosnia, Iraq, Pakistan, China, Russia, Central - South America have been brought in. Congress (including Kennedy supposedly for the common man) has voted hundreds of thousands of worker visas to replace American workers from ALL professions (including computer tech - teachers - nurses - doctors). To understand the scope of the LARGER plan/ not reported see TWO links below - get educated.   www.heyokamagazine.com/Heyoka.10.LANDGRAB.JudyMoriarty.htm  www.heyokamagazine.com?HEYOKA.10.JudyMoriarty.htm                                   

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