Vatican: Britain and US Knew about the Holocaust, and Did Nothing

FDR knew about the Holocaust and decided that it was best to defeat Germany rather then bomb the rail lines to the camps.

Personally, I would have bombed the rail lines.

It's common knowledge that the US government knew what was going on in Nazi-occupied Europe, but did nothing: isolationism was the order of the day, and had been since WWI.

Indeed, Hitler's war machine was big business for many non-German firms, such as IBM and Ford Motor Company. After the US entered the war in Europe, American troops found themselves fired upon by tanks running on American engines. The same as it ever was, and the same as it is today: arms trafficking is a massive money-spinner, the fallout of which is only truly considered when it's a political inevitability.

As is always the case, economic forces drove the US to war, and the moralizing came later. It sucks, but it's true.

Excuse me, but Britain took the same stance about the concentration camps. The thinking was that bombs dropped on camps would be more effective dropped on (for example) ball-bearing factories by destroying what was at the center of the Nazis' capacity to conduct war.

In fact, without Speer's genius, the destruction of the ball-bearing plants would have caused them to surrender way earlier. Speer saved the German war machine from destruction and let the Nazis continue the war.

We were in the war. The charge of "isolationism" is irrational.

Further, the American companies, such as Ford and IBM, had no control over their German branches at that point. And, they reaped no profits as well.

What "economic" forces drove us to war?

And what economic forces drove Canada with the US?

The "economic" forces that drove us to war against the Japanese were not "economic" on our part. We stopped selling them oil and scrap metal so as not to be complicit in feeding their war machine as the Japanese "raped" Nanking.

That cut-off sparked the bombing of Pearl Harbor. So, in fact, it was not our economic interests that sparked the war, but our moral interests and the Japanese own "economic" interest in their war machines.

As far as war with the Germans, WWII,  went, we did not want to get into another European war. It was the Brits and French who set up WWII by screwing over the Germans unconscionably, destroying the German economy with demands for gold.

Our American president Wilson was against all that.

Do you study anything up north there that is not solidly based in anti-American sentiments by leftist teachers? :)

The best work is often done quietly.

While it is probably true that Britain knew about the death camps you also have to look at the far bigger picture.

Britain virtually stood alone up and until the US came into the war, before that the US had taken a decidedly "we are neutral" stance. This on he back that the US didn't want to get into another European war.

Amazingly people seem to forget that the was a little thing called the Battle of Britain raging after the British Expeditionary force was pushed back and almost annihilated at Dunkirk.

With the other members of the Empire Britain tried to hold of what some thought as inevitable invasion.

Nazi Germany was ready for a war - Britain was not, and, to be totally honest, history proves that Britain and the British Empire did not want war!

The Vatican coming out now and in this bizarre PR exercise attacks both Britain and the US, and by default all those who were involved in WWII I find somewhat disingenuous.

I have a personal stake in the liberation of Rome - my father was there!

This adds to one of a plethora of reasons I detest the Church of Rome. 

This Pope was a Nazi sympathiser as far as I have read - and nothing, so far, has changed my mind.

Its very interesting that Germany was mostly a catholic strong hold, that Hitler was a christian or at least went to Christian church services.

Its also interesting that the catholic church after doing these so called marvelous things in reference to Jews then helped NAZI's escape war crimes. I think the truth is that the Jews were helped by members of the catholic church without authority from the Vatican that the Vatican did help NAZI's escape their war crimes. But now the Vatican is pushing out bullshit and saying the pope at the time was behind the save the Jews plan. Its of course a bid to hide the reality and the shame of the real channel took concerning Jews. White wash!

Yes I expect both UK and US did know about the genocide plans and knew Jew's where going to the gas ovens. Bombing the railway lines would of course been a good idea but did UK have the ability to reach the targets in the first stages of the war, I will think you will find they did not until much later and in fact some of those lines where targeted and disrupted. Britain was ill prepared for that war and US made a great profit from that factor during and after.

Roy please do not try to white wash USA corporate interest in Germany before World War II as it had great interest in fact upto the point of Perl Harbor. In fact the British infuriated America on more than one occasion by bombing factories US said they should not in Germany.  US played a two bladed game prior and a milder one during the war.

Most of the loans to Hitler's Germany came from US sources and US corporates made big profits out of that war, the martial plan was funded mostly out of profits made out of the war and Britain swapped sovereign states and Britain paid back the money borrowed and the interest was a very nice little earner for USA for many years after the war.

The War actually swayed power from the British empire world power into USA hands and this was all part of the USA global chess game plan. With interest I now watch a modern day chess plan that see's, EU and a strong Germany waiting in the wings whilst China pulling down USA by its greed.

I sometimes wonder who really won the last world war, my mind wanders to the international corperate companies and feel that they are the ones that will chose the next world super power and new empire. At a bet its a German led Europe the 6th Reich.

The Vatican has been evil and will always be evil but amongst its priest around the world there will always be kind considerate and caring hero within the fold. Similar to those ones that did help the Jews. I salute the Hero's and not the Vatican.

When I see footage of Pius storming the beach at Normandy in his funny hat and fancy Italian shoes, I will take this criticism seriously.

If the church really gave a damn about humanity they'd allow contraceptives, but they are engaged in this silly "we're number one, yay!" race against Islam and Judaism, the main strategy of which seems to be proliferation of its members' offspring. (Islam makes no bones about this and even has a website with the count!)

While I do think the unrestrained population growth is irresponsible, in light of repeated events like this:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/08/200981162630289451.html

A child and four women are among at least eight Christians killed after 40 houses and a church were set ablaze amid riots with Muslims in eastern Pakistan, officials have said.

Dozens of people were also injured in the violence in Pakistan's Gojra village, which erupted after allegations surfaced that a Quran had been defiled, the officials said on Saturday........

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"Some people blamed the Christians for the desecration of the holy Quran," he said adding that the accusations were "baseless".

Mohammad Saleem, a correspondent for The Dawn newspaper in Pakistan, told Al Jazeera: "The clashes erupted when a boy of a Christian community allegedly desecrated a few pages of the holy Quran.

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"All the dead are Christians. I was told that they were burned alive."

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I gotta root for the C team. Religion of peace strikes again!

(you think maybe that boy was grounded for awhile?)