VIGILANTE INJUSTICE: Organized "Gang Stalking" is the American Gestapo. Are They Doing Hi-Tech Torture?

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VIGILANTE INJUSTICE: ORGANIZED "GANG STALKING" IS THE AMERICAN GESTAPO

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A frightening mosaic of alleged unconstitutional abuses threatens to nullify the rule of law and the right of due process under the law in America.  Human rights violations could be taking place in cities and towns across the nation, but the mainstream media has yet to take note.

A group of "targeted" American citizens maintain they are being set up for ruin -- financially, socially and physically -- by an organized campaign of vigilantism that some victims believe is funded and supported by multiple levels of government, perhaps using citizen "watch" and volunteer programs as well as private fraternal organizations as a front for extra-legal harassment and persecution.

The phenomenon is commonly known as "gang stalking" and "community stalking." But that nomenclature tends to trivialize the issue.

Victims say it's a re-emergence of the monstrous methodology of the KKK, the Stasi and the Gestapo.  It is, they say,  mob rule that can turn even well-intentioned community organizers into an extra-legal control mechanism that some targeted individuals believe is coordinated and condoned by rogue elements within the power structure.  The recent killing of an inmate at the Prince Georges County, MD jail could be the latest manifestation of such officially tolerated, extra-legal vigilante "justice."

This link explains it well, and contains sublinks to additional information:

http://citizensoulpower.wordpress.com/2007/09/21

Those who raise this issue claim that their telecom connections are subject to surveillance, interruption and tampering.  They report that their ability to freely communicate is severely circumscribed.  Careers are ruined, reputations are slandered, and the physical well-being of targeted individuals is placed in serious jeopardy by the employment of high-tech instruments capable of inflicting pain and harm; those are the charges. Victims have said that their mail is intercepted, transactions are sabotaged and financial statements are altered to surreptitiously drain targeted persons of their financial security, driving them to destitution and personal destruction.  Entire families, they claim, have been decimated.  They say this phenomenon may even explain in part the crisis in the mortgage and credit markets. Here is another link that explains how this could be happening:

http://www.usenet-replayer.com/faq/alt.abuse.recovery.html

Now let me give some personal testimony, based on my personal experiences. I typically avoid "becoming" the story; but this is a true story that justice compels me to tell:

I am an investigative/business reporter/producer who has worked for major newspapers, TV stations and magazines.  I had my own TV show in the metro New York market for six years.  Perhaps not coincidentally, the show ended just as I began to realize that I was being methodically and destructively gang-stalked.  It's been going on for more than four years.  I have tried to seek redress by going through official channels, to no avail.  It wasn't until I read and researched the many web sites on the subject that I began to realize what was happening --- and that others are being similarly afflicted.

I have contacted media outlets, but I find that there is a concerted effort to destroy my credibility, and I believe that has affected my ability to get this story told.  (Persons targeted by this movement report that their complaints to public officials are routinely received with scorn and not-so-subtle suggestions that the complainants are mentally unbalanced -- a response that critics maintain is part of a strategy to neutralize those who dare to challenge the prevailing dogma.)

I was part of "major media" for many years, and I can report that the mainstream media is highly vulnerable to intimidation, manipulation and rumor-mongering.  I post this message at some personal risk to myself and to my family;  but I cannot remain silent and solely rely on "the system" any longer.  The system isn't working.

My name is Victor Livingston. I live in Bucks County, PA.  My email address is scrivener50@verizon.net.  But my email is erratic, my accounts have been subject to hijacking, and I can't rely on the privacy or even the veracity of electronic communications.  I fear that my identity has been stolen and that I have been set up by rogue elements that have tolerated this extra-legal activity, and who will resort to "any means necessary" to suppress accounts of official misconduct.

Federal law enforcement is aware of gang/community stalking;  indeed, it is possible that federal grants are being used by localities to fund such activities under the guise of community watch groups and volunteer corps.  Some local police personnel who have resisted the vigilante movement reportedly have become targets.

My hope is that conscientious officials under the direct authority of the Justice Department are working behind the scenes to curb the abuses.  I have officially requested a civil rights investigation into what has been happening, but to no avail.  I have tried to contact my Congressman, Patrick Murphy, but those efforts have been unsuccessful.  That explains why I have resorted to multiple postings on the web, so I can confirm that my words have not been altered.  I have also emailed members of the House and Senate judiciary committees to request a congressional investigation.

If you are a fellow journalist, please investigate this under-the-radar abuse of power in your own community; odds are, it's going on in your own backyard.  Residents of other industrialized nations also have posted reports of organized gang/community stalking in their communities, suggesting that these tactics could be part of an international reactionary ideology.

And if you know or work with Sy Hersh, Nat Hentoff or Bob Woodward, or local journalists in your local communities who are more than just stenographers for the status quo,  please send them this post. 

In the words of John Dean, it's worse than Watergate.



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Laloe2008

My personal testimony will be published. For now everyone that knows about these atrocities needs to speak out and contact Senators Feinstein and Boxer with a complete report. A google search for help for victims of stalking reveals a link to DOJ/ Bureau of Justice Assistance.

Here is just some of what you will learn about them. Start connecting these dots.

RISS operates a secure intranet, known as RISSNET™, to facilitate law enforcement communications and information sharing nationwide. RISS local, state, federal, and tribal law enforcement member agency personnel have online access to share intelligence and coordinate efforts against criminal networks that operate in many locations across jurisdictional lines.

The RISS Program is a federally funded program administered by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA). Each RISS center must comply with DOJ, BJA Program Guidelines. Information retained in RISS criminal intelligence databases must also comply with the Criminal Intelligence Systems Operating Policies (Federal Regulation 28 CFR Part 23).

The Director and policy board chairperson of each center compose the RISS National Policy Group, which has direct control over the policies and operations of the secure nationwide law enforcement communications and information sharing network (RISSNET™) and related resources.

Since inception, RISS membership has grown to serve over 8,100 law enforcement and criminal justice agencies representing close to a million sworn officers around the globe. Membership includes local, state, federal, and tribal law enforcement member agencies in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, U.S. territories, Australia, Canada, and England. Agencies must join their regional RISS center through an application process established by the center.

RISS history includes many achievements and successes in aiding member agencies to share information and combat multijurisdictional crime problems. A few milestones are mentioned below.

In 1997, RISS implemented RISSNET. Today, many resources are available for electronic access by member agencies. RISSNET resources include online access to RISSIntel, RISSGang Program, RISSLeads, RISSSearch, RISSLive, RISSLinks, RISS center Web pages, secure e-mail, and RISSafe. Member agency officers must obtain a security package and enroll on RISSNET.

During 1999, RISS began expansion of RISSNET to electronically connect state and federal law enforcement agency systems as nodes to provide additional resources to all users. As of May 2008, 18 High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas, 30 state agencies, and 17 other federal and regional systems have an established node connection to RISSNET.

In September 2002, the FBI Law Enforcement Online (LEO) system interconnected with RISS. In October 2003, the RISS/LEO interconnection was recommended in the National Criminal Intelligence Sharing Plan (NCISP) as the initial sensitive but unclassified communications backbone for implementation of a nationwide criminal intelligence sharing capability. The NCISP encourages agencies to connect their system to RISS/LEO


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Laloe2008

Here is further proof that there are electonic technologies being used, this is from the Bureau of Justice Assistance also.


Less-Lethal Technology for Law Enforcement: BJA and the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), in partnership with DOJ's Office of Community Oriented Policing

Services (COPS), hosted a national symposium on less-lethal technology to identify key issues in shaping national policy. BJA also is working with NIJ and

the International Association of Chiefs of Police to provide an interim model policy on electronic control weapons.


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KF

Have you contacted Feinstein or Boxer? Did they actually say they would help you?

Or was it something, "tells us all the details... blah, blah, blah... give us concrete evidence"

They reply with, "we'll look into it." Then, just like their oil company investigations, "we don't see any evidence that any wrongdoing has occured."

Eventually, it will be, "we can't help you, sorry. We can tell you how to get some help though. Just call your local mental institution, and tell them your story in full detail on how you've been covertly stalked and harassed by the gov't. They'll certainly give you all the help you need."

Why Feinstein and Boxer? What about Pelosi? Thought all you liberal wackos liked her?

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rosemary cancellieri

Laloe,

Thank you --- your positing was valueable and in line with my experiences.

I've been on a writing campaign too! I'll send my info to the two senators you mentioned. I'll also written to Clinton and Patterson - NY and will have my info published too. "Rosie and The Cat vs the mob". At times, it was just me and him --- and he a great listener. I've been thinking of a logo --- a circle with the word TRUTH in the center - - because I know that most people would not support this type of activity -- especially in my liberal neck of the woods.

Thanks again!@!!

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rosie

Please remove my last name --- me and the cat are getting enough attention.

Thanks!

R

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KF

Here's what I don't get:

Why do liberals hate gov't so much, and yet they want to socialize everything and create more government?

Isn't that a contradiction?

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KF

Oh, one more thing: I became a gangstalking target and voice to skull victim during the Clinton administration.

If all you liberals claim that the evil GWB created all of this to victimize us, how could that be? Mine began in 1995.

Of course your answer will be that Bush Sr. created all of this, and that he deliberately held off implementing it until Clinton took office (to make it look like he was responsible) - RIGHT?

You liberals can't get over the fact that you lost the last election. Well I got news for ya:

McCain is going to win!! Ha ha! You're going lose again! McCain is so much better than Obama.

I'm a Conservative, I'm a Christian, and I believe in (all of) my Constitutional rights. Unfortunately I'm also a GS and V2K victim for the last 13 years.

 

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Gloria Stroud

Other "Targeted Individuals" (TI's) and gangstalkers do not need to be convinced.  Stalk the gangstalkers.  Confiscate the equipment that is used to emit the microwave rays that alters the cellular composition of body cells, elevate blood pressure, create heart attacks and cerebral hemorrhages. Work with other TI's and find a way  to get the cell  phones of the gangstalkers for the contacts (befriend them when they stalk and talk to you.) Return their cell phones.  You are not stealing them, you just borrowed evidence from the perpetrators (criminals) who are literally trying to kill you and make it look like natural causes.  Take the information acquired to an attorney to be recorded for a future court case.  It's a  matter of self-defense.  You are acquiring your evidence.  The gangstalkers and known operators of the electromagnetic devices, whether behind walls or in the cars are your first line of self-defense.  Film them and let them see you filming them and their whole family (on grounds inside or outside where it is legal). Psychological intimidation is a two-way street.    People pay more attention to a barking dog than a meowing cat.  Make the consequences outweigh the $ or other gratification they are receiving.

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KF

I like your ideas Gloria Stroud. I would also like to add beating the 'perpetrators' to a pulp, and punishing them severely. I'd love to make my perps feel as much pain and suffering as they have caused me over the years. I'd love to screw their lives up to the point they have done to mine.

Oops, I forgot: better not use the words "perpetrators" or "perps" or "TI" on this blog, or Scrivener the so-called expert on gangstalking, will call me a "disinformation specialist" and accuse me of spreading "facshist disinformation propaganda." Ridiculous huh?  

Anyways, back to your idea Gloria. Identifying and locating the perpetrators seem to be a huge obstacle for many TI's, myself included. Oops, I used TI again. Oh well. I know of a handful of people that were connected to my past of 15 to 20 years ago, that my be part of targeting me. 

I found out the hard way, that the law enforcement is of no use in this matter, unless tangible evidence is given to them. Obtaining tangible evidence is another major problem for us TI's. I thought about hiring a team of attorneys and private investigators to check these people out from my past. The PI's wanted anywhere from $10,000 to $15,000 up front just to get started on the investigation. And, they said, "we can't guarantee that we'll be able to find anything." I don't have that kind of money! We all how much attorneys cost.

So, what would be a good way to get the word out? About organizing - that is. I know there are several websites already. But not many TI's want their name and address known, or disclosed to the public out of fear. I feel this way too. In addition, most of us TI's are still able to maintain jobs, or go to school. We have reponsiblities and obligations the same as non-victims.

Therefore, we don't have much time to spend  "looking" for our stalkers, or perps - whatever you want to call them. (To me they are nothing but assholes - so it really makes no difference what they are called). Gathering and mounting evidence to build a case is also very time consuming. Our victimizers know all of these things.

I have thought about ideas like your's Gloria. Many, many ... many times!     

 

 

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rosie

FEAR --- that's what they want so we are crippled!!!! Into inaction -- paranoia -- and all the other stuff from the Psychological Harassment Information Association site.

Get the FEDs and Justice Department in your area involved. . . .

Give it a try and don't believe something until you know - - and I do mean know it to be true -
TRUTH --- YOUR TRUTH --- not all the rumors --- Contact a Civil Liberties attorney -- hand out pamplets --- let everyone know

This is psychology harassment and feeds on itself.

Awareness is PREVENTION

http://miami.indymedia.org/

Another link ---

R

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KF

Rosie, I like your idea about getting the Feds involved. I have debated this several times myself (I have been contemplating the idea since I first became a target - 13 years).

But, I've learned the hard way about contacting law enforcement about being a gangstalking victim and voice to skull target.

Example:

I was being gangstalked and mobbed by a group of strange people that followed me for several days. They followed me literally everywhere - home, work, shopping malls - they literally followed me for hundreds of miles over a period of several days. I finally went to a police station and explained to them what happened, and that I was very scared that my life was in danger. The stalkers followed me to the police station, and parked up the street. When they saw me enter the police building, the stalkers left. I tried to explain to the police, but they were not interested in helping. 

The voice to skull had just started on me full-time  24/7, and I wasn't thinking straight - I din't know what was going on, and I was merely "reacting" to the street theatre that was coordinated perfectly to the voice to skull. I was scared, and confused. The voice to skull perps were telling me that I'm dead if I even write down the stalkers license plate numbers, or take any pictures of "their people" following me around.

To make a long story short, the police didn't believe my story, and they arrested me on a 5150. I was booked into the county looney bin, against my will,  for an involuntary 3 day stay. That was because I went to the police without evidence of being stalked and followed. They accused me of being on drugs, and having paranoid delusions. Of course, I wasn't on drugs - but you can't convince the police, until they take your blood and urine samples. But, nevertheless, the 5150 charge wasn't dropped. In addition, I was billed $9,000 for which my medical insurance refused to cover for the 3 day stay. I had to pay this out of my pocket, as well as a $850 ambulance transport fee. This is permenantly on my criminal record, and I am "labled" now. This screwjob was my perpetrators whole objective for stalking me, while coordinating their street theatre and voice to skull on me during that time. They won!

That is why I am reluctant to involve the Feds. My guess is that I will be treated the same way by them, maybe worse - especially if they don't think I have any 'credible, tangible' evidence. The Feds will also know that I have the 5150 on my record - another reason why they probably won't help me.

Therefore, I suffer. The voice to skull has been done to me now (full time 24/7/365) since February 2000. I have learned ways to block them out - mentally. But, they still harass me all day and night - every day.

      

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Jamie Jameson

Here is more from whosarat.

Community watch used to be a good thing but over the decades has been MISUSED, and exploited by the wrong kind of people. Yes there needs to be people looking out for our communities and deterring REAL crime, but it has gone beyond the parameters of good citizenship and now has taken on this ugly face, called 'stalk innocent people'. and the people joining up for community watch, are not the same decent folks who used to do that. now its self indulgent, wannabe ninja type people with a screw loose who are joining community watch,who couldn't become cops and are legends in their own minds. that is a shame really, for the crime in communities hasn't decreased any, all this has done is create a 'invasion of the body snatchers' mentality. I still believe in the 'block parent' program, which is intended to make children safe, but as for community watch programs, they have been so severely corrupted that the program is no longer in the best interest of the community.

These freaks think they are above the law. They are not, they are the worst of criminals and now it is time they are watched. Community Watch is to report criminal activities in the neighborhood ONLY! Now they are the only criminals in the neighborhood!


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Laloe2008

More from Eleanor White


Organized Stalking / Gang Stalking         an essay by Eleanor White

 While the average 21st Century citizen prefers not to think about this crime syndrome,

stalking groups have been using"civilian psychological warfare"on their targets now for at least two decades.

And talking about this taboo topic brings a very heavy"don't spoil my day....response. 

People not affected simply refuse to listen to information on stalking by more than one stalker.
 
Kind of like the way folks don't like hearing about cancer.

In the early 1990s, legal jursidictions in both the United States and Canada finally

...........................enacted legislation making stalking a crime. 

But to society's detriment, justice systems everywhere
seamlessly ignore every case where a group of stalkers engage in the same behaviour as single stalkers. 

The reason isn't clear, but it may have to do with the rather substantial amount of investigative labour required when a group takes turns doing "little nasties" against a target. 

Who is the perpetrator?

That the stalkers are generally not career criminals makes going after stalking group members a substantial project for the justice system. 

Some of the stalkers have considerable respect in their communities.

Today's stalking groups use very carefully planned harassment methods. 

Every single act of harassment is carefully designed so that it is in the "life's normal breaks" category.

What the target sees are "normal breaks" which usually occur maybe once or twice a month on average, to maybe once a year. 

But for organized stalking targets, such "normal breaks" happen at least once, and often several times a DAY.

This "life's normal breaks" format of the crime also adds to the difficulty of investigating and prosecuting organized stalking.
 
In turn, the apparent normalcy makes it very easy for police and other officials to brush off complaints of organized stalking as the target being"mistaken","overreacting," .........................or often,"in need of seeing a good psychiatrist.""Life's normal breaks" ................span a huge range of seriousness.

At the low end you have endless noise from co-opted neighbours who observe the target and schedule "normal activity" like running a leaf blower for each time a target may wish to enjoy peaceful activity. Or scattering the target's mail on their porch while the target is away at work. Or frequent, make believe, obviously sarcastic "wrong number" calls.

But at the opposite end of the range,you have surreptitious entry to the target's home,car and workplace,with sabotage of belongings,and torture and even the .........................death of pets. 

One target came home to find antifreeze in the dog's dish,and the dog permanently blind. Some pets or wild animals are butchered and left on the target's doorstep.

It is common, where a target is married, for the stalkers to carefully harass the target only at times and places when the target is separated from the partner. 

This eventually drives the target to complain, and the usual reaction is

 "Don't talk about that any more" ...............................or "Go see a psychiatrist right away". 

The marriage is then often headed for destruction.

Vicious lies are circulated in the community, and these lies do not stop. 

Such lies as the target is a prostitute,a drug user,a drug dealer,has a long criminal record,

..........................or the highly destructive favourite,

applied to both men and women,................................the target is a pedophile.

Sabotage, lies, and harassment happen at the workplace as well,

and it's not unusual for the target to be driven from a job.
 
Once that happens, when the target looks for another job, the target is shadowed, and lies are fed to prospective employers.
 
Some targets have been driven to homelessness,and a few have been driven to suicide.

So just because activity is confined to "life's normal breaks",these "breaks" can be devastating and even become life-and-death issues.

Along with the lies, endless sabotage of individually small, but cumulatively important belongings accompanies the surreptitious entries, which are done using locksmithing techniques. 

The target effectively owns nothing, because anything he or she owns is subject to being ruined.

Sabotage is carefully spaced out and held to relatively low individual value per incident, as are the thefts that also occur. 

A great deal of effort is put into planning the sabotage and thefts, and scheduling them so police will not take the complaints seriously.

Even the sabotage has a well planned psychological element:Clothing is often ripped open at sexually significant places like armpits and crotches.  Can you imagine taking your underwear to the police station to report that someone broke in and ripped out all the crotches? Do you think the police would treat that as a crime worthy of their attention?

How long does this go on? With a literal handful of rare exceptions, for life.

Because the stalking groups continue to recruit and grow indefinitely, there is no "tiring" of the
stalker, as happens in single stalker cases.

To this point, I've briefly highlighted the crime of organized stalking. 

Organized stalking is sometimes called "gang stalking" though the stalking group members generally don't appear to be affiliated withyouth gangs,race gangs,biker gangs, .................................or say,the Mafia. "Vigilante stalking" is sometimes used because of the false allegations that targets are active criminals.

The big question of course, is "Why?" The full answer has yet to be discovered.

For an individual target,the "Why?" answer relates to the lies told to the people doing the harassing. 

There are people in any neighbourhood or community who enjoy the feeling ofself-righteousness .............................from"helping keeping crime under control",or in some cases"doing the Lord's work." ..................................."Tell the right lies,"and it's not hard to recruit harassers.

A second part of the "Why?" question,for which no clear answer is yet available,is why the leaders of these organized stalking groups propagate the lies. 

One author, Florida private investigator David Lawson, investigated organized stalking groups for more than a decade,and succeeded in infiltrating groups in the United States and Canada.His current book on the subject is "Cause Stalking" and is available from

http://www.amazon.com

David Lawson found that the organized stalking group leaders keep something of an "arm's length" distance from the members, often passing target designations in ways where the leader can't be identified, such as a coded classified newspaper ad, or even a mention on a local radio show.

Lawson reports that leaders are often from "somewhere else" and claim to have worked in "intelligence" or other difficult to verify jobs. He was able to interact with stalking group members, but his information on the leaders is skimpy.

David Lawson did report some corporate funding of these stalking groups, by corporations who needed ways to deal with people and groups they consider their "enemies." People like activists and whistleblowers, or even intellectuals critical of their activities.Cases are known where, for example, a wife discovers her husband is a pedophile and reports him.Inheritance disputes are understandable. 

And of course, some organized stalking cases have resulted from having a marriage or relationship go sour.Those are reasons why some targets have been selected, but it is distressing is that there are many targets who do not know why they were initially chosen.The reason David Lawson chose "Cause Stalking" as the title of his current book on the subject is that he found organized stalking members are often recruited on the basis of some "cause". 

Lawson didn't elaborate on the causes used for
recruiting, but did report that once recruited, the "front" cause is essentially ignored, and the actual work of the group is to harass "criminals", and perhaps drive them out of the community.Lawson reports, and targets concur, that across the U.S. and Canada, local groups now exist everywhere and the are seamlessly networked. If a target moves, the group in the new location will continue the harassment.

David Lawson has done ground-breaking work in exposing the plight of thousands of  organized stalking targets.His observations are hailed by the targets as "right on the money", highly accurate.And yet, he has missed the mark when it comes to his
conclusions.Lawson repeatedly lays the blame for organized stalking groups at the feet of foreign terrorists, the "Al Quaeda" thing, and,members of the U.S. Patriot Movement,who, according to their radio shows,are interested in exposing government crimes and deviations from the U.S. Consitution. 

Lawson calls them "anti government", but one would think that exposing government crime is a truly patriotic act.

Lawson's own observations simply do not show any involvement by either foreign terrorists or the U.S. Patriot movement. 

No connection is visible. That doesn't mean there aren't some members of either Al-Quaeda or the U.S. Patriot Movement who also do some organized stalking, but targets don't report a visible connection with those groups from their experiences.So, what can be done about the crime of organized
stalking?In the opinion of this writer, all it would take to stop it would be for organized stalking to become a household word.
  That's it. 

It's that simple.The problem is that because the justice system consistently denies the reality, the media has nothing they are willing to print. If a target approaches reporters, the reporters, under
the gun for accuracy, are very reluctant, though there are small hints this may be slowly changing.If the general public were aware of this crime, the pressure on the justice system would be sufficient to stop it, I claim.Meanwhile, what can someone who discovers, and that can take time, that their endless "bad luck" is really organized stalking do to help themselves?Right now, there are a precious few, a small minority, of crisis support organization counselors who do know organized stalking is "real" and will offer some support. They cannot stop the crime, nor can they force the reluctant justice system to act to help the target, but it can make a huge difference just knowing one person, especially connected with an organization, does
believe the target and does know that organized stalking is a real crime.Anti-organized stalking activists need to work harder at developing connections with those few crisis support counselors, in the view of this writer.

Perhaps the largest pool of activity among targets is networking via the Internet. 

Because destruction of targets' incomes is a high priority of the stalkers,target activism is rather poorly funded,but some things are happening. 

At the moment, I'd like to recommend googling "organized stalking", with the quotes, to readers who may believe their "bad luck" has reached the point of organized stalking.Networking doesn't stop the harassment but it can dramatically improve the outlook for targets.What can the general public do to help?

Look up organized stalking on the Internet, read what is available, and above all else, talk it up. The day organized stalking becomes a"household word"is the day that this crime will be properly attended to by justice systems.

Special thanks to readers who have read this article.


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penny copper2

PLEASE HELP GET THE WORD OUT

GROUP STALKING IN AMERICA --- WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GANGS IN CALIFORNIA -

New York: There is a hideous crime taking place in our country that will tear us apart from the inside - an inner explosion of terrorist --- these are American who do not value the American Justice System. These are people who participate in activities contray to human rights and liberties.

It is referred to by many names: Gang Stalking
Psychological Manipulation
Mobbing
Cyber-bully
Bullying

Links:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm

http://miami.indymedia.org/news/2008/07/11367.php

Victims are killed - either by suffering from extreme emotional distress and it’s manifestation via heart disease, weight gain, depression and suicide. Megan Meier’s experience with Cyber Bullying has hit the headlines with significant changes in the law. Her family got the word out. It took them a year to confront their traumatic situation -- but they it. And, aspects of this type of inhumanity have been changed.

This phenomena is attributed to many origins --- its used on and by many fractions even those within the justice system to deal not justice by vengenance. In other words, no one is exempt. Pending the rendering a decision, Judges have been “Gang Stalked”. One thing will function to terminate this activity:

GET THE WORD OUT

Most people given a total picture of the consequences of this activity will not participate, especially if they are supported by friends and society via laws. This is anti-American activity perpetuated by idiots. Unfortunately, stupid people can be dangerous.

Targets need support and the strategy of stalkers is to eliminate the idea that their is support within the Justice System and our society. The stalkers induce paranoia and paranoia is the weapon of inactivity. Paranoia feeds on isolation, lack of trust, stress and it intended to divert one from taking action.

Send out emails, if you’ve run out of people you know --- return a letter or even this one to your spammers and ask them to send this out too. Just get the word out. It doesn’t matter to who --- it will come around.

It will reinforce any media news that is circulated in this regard and eliminate disbelief and invalidation....aka paranoid, crazy, etc.

The point is that this is real and happening to you and can happen to anyone. Action will help by eliminating the pool of participants and rallying support of community members and friends to your plight.

The word will get out.

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penny copper2

PLEASE HELP GET THE WORD OUT

GROUP STALKING IN AMERICA --- WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GANGS IN CALIFORNIA -

New York: There is a hideous crime taking place in our country that will tear us apart from the inside - an inner explosion of terrorist --- these are American who do not value the American Justice System. These are people who participate in activities contray to human rights and liberties.

It is referred to by many names: Gang Stalking
Psychological Manipulation
Mobbing
Cyber-bully
Bullying

Links:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm

http://miami.indymedia.org/news/2008/07/11367.php

Victims are killed - either by suffering from extreme emotional distress and it’s manifestation via heart disease, weight gain, depression and suicide. Megan Meier’s experience with Cyber Bullying has hit the headlines with significant changes in the law. Her family got the word out. It took them a year to confront their traumatic situation -- but they it. And, aspects of this type of inhumanity have been changed.

This phenomena is attributed to many origins --- its used on and by many fractions even those within the justice system to deal not justice by vengenance. In other words, no one is exempt. Pending the rendering a decision, Judges have been “Gang Stalked”. One thing will function to terminate this activity:

GET THE WORD OUT

Most people given a total picture of the consequences of this activity will not participate, especially if they are supported by friends and society via laws. This is anti-American activity perpetuated by idiots. Unfortunately, stupid people can be dangerous.

Targets need support and the strategy of stalkers is to eliminate the idea that their is support within the Justice System and our society. The stalkers induce paranoia and paranoia is the weapon of inactivity. Paranoia feeds on isolation, lack of trust, stress and it intended to divert one from taking action.

Send out emails, if you’ve run out of people you know --- return a letter or even this one to your spammers and ask them to send this out too. Just get the word out. It doesn’t matter to who --- it will come around.

It will reinforce any media news that is circulated in this regard and eliminate disbelief and invalidation....aka paranoid, crazy, etc.

The point is that this is real and happening to you and can happen to anyone. Action will help by eliminating the pool of participants and rallying support of community members and friends to your plight.

The word will get out.

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KF

Hey, great post Laloe. Excellent! Eleanor White is an expert on this subject. Her essay you posted really hits home. The things she writes about reflect my situation exactly.

Sorry, for being kinda hostile in my posts lately. I was just joking yesterday about liberals being wackos. Not all of them are. (only some - the same as some right wingers are as well)Believe it or not, I'm a right-wing, pro-life, Bible hugging, gun toting, Republican conservative.

AND, I'm a victim of gangstalking and voice to skull. It's just that sometimes liberals really aggravate me, with all their "gov't conspiracy theories" and stuff. I have faith in our government and the strong foundation that it was built on. So, yes, right-wing Christian conservatives are targeted too by the perps. IMO, political and church affiliations, don't have any bearing on whether or not a target is "chosen" or not. Sometimes at least.  

Anyways, politics aside, I liked your post. And, I respect Eleanor White, liberal activist or not.  

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KF

Has anybody ever found any proof that community watchdog groups have gone apeshit and are doing the targetting and harassment of us TI's?

I keep seeing this same theory from so many TI's all oveer the internet. But, is it all just a big "assumption" - without any undeniable evidence?

So far, from what I can see, all these accounts of accusations of community watchdog groups being covertly funded by the government are basically subjective, with inductive conclusions that are based only on a lot of assumptions.

When actual real proof is ever brought forward, I'll believe it. But, until then, I will continue to believe what I believe.

  

 

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anon231

Quote KF - "When actual real proof is ever brought forward, I'll believe it. But, until then, I will continue to believe what I believe."

What do you believe?

From what I have read, the assertion/claim is that these "groups", along with other groups and select individuals, are simply *tools* of an alleged unconstitutional subversive program. The allegations of what can only be called torture, using surveillance/gas-lighting/slander/provocation with focused energy and chemical attacks, mostly began after the events of 9-11-2001.

Taking your testimony of being "professionally" discredited, then enduring 13 years of artificial auditory reception, would indicate that your life was "hijacked" for experimentation. An obvious *crime against humanity* in the United States of America.

We preach human rights around the world for others, but make exceptions here at home?

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KF

I don't want to re-post everything that I have already posted since like page 3 or 4 of this blog, where I started. But, I'll copy a few of MY beliefs for you, anon.

From an earlier post of mine on page 6:

"I'm not a paid disinformation specialist. I'm a victim. I just think that too many victims have bought the whole govt. conspiracy mind-control, covert, experimentation, COINTEL, etc, etc... thing "hook, line and sinker." It's like these disinformation specialists have "planted" all of the conspiracy stuff for us victims to find.

If the REAL perps can keep us pre-occupied and focused on accusing the govt. of "torturing" us with voice to skull, gangstalking, and mind-control stuff, the REAL perps can continue harassing us - and getting away with it. They know that we will never get anywhere accusing the govt. We will also look like a bunch of paranoid, delusional wackos for talking about all of this "far-fetched" govt mind control stuff.

We need to find and punish the perps, but I doubt the govt is behind it all. This is just my opinion. The govt is broke! Why would they waste money on this crap, if they can already do whatever they want, and only another civil war could change that! I just don't buy into all of the so-called "evidence" that is in all the conspiracy theory books and stuff. Not only is it highly subjective, but most of it is over-exaggeration at its finest.

I strongly believe the REAL perps (doing voice to skull) are nothing more than a bunch of punks with a high tech pirate shortwave or microwave radio network. BTW, hate groups, such as white supremists, have just that - illegal pirate radio networks. This very well could be the "voice to skull" harassment that some of us gangstalking victims are targeted with - not satellite transmissions being beemed down into our heads from outer space, like a lot of victims and websites advocate so strongly!

That, I believe, is the lie the REAL perps want us to buy into. Anybody who claims that the govt is secretly beaming thoughts into theeir head from outer space, or with the new military technology, sounds like a delusional wacko. This was the perps whole strategy to begin with.

I just don't [buy] into the whole gov't conspiracy theories."

I have been targeted by an illegal criminal gang, that is/was involved heavily with illegal drugs (dealing/manufacturing). They victimized from 1990 to 1995. Then I became a voice to skull target in 1995, during the Clinton administration.

So, no me being targeted had nothing to do with 9/11/2001, except I forced my V2K perps to stop harassing me on 9/11/2001. I drove around a major National Defense facility that happened to be near my house at that time, I drove around and around it. The V2K perps were not happy with me for doing that. (laughs - heh, heh, heh) The V2K perps resumed a few days later after 9/11.     

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anon231

I went back to read your earlier posts too. Your accounts of a "time-line" disagree somewhat.

Quote KF at 03:02 on August 4th, 2008 -

"I've been done with voice to skull 24/7 since March 2000. Before that, they did voie to skull to me part time on occasion from 1996 to 2000..."

From March 2000 would be about 18 years and 5 months.

Adding 4 years from 1996 to 2000 would bring it to about 22years and 5 months.

Quote KF at 06:21 on August 18th, 2008 -

"...I've been a victim for 14 years of voice to skull and gangstalking..."

Quote KF at 13:27 on August 24th, 2008 -

"...If all you liberals claim that the evil GWB created all of this to victimize us, how could that be? Mine began in 1995..."

"...Unfortunately I'm also a GS and V2K victim for the last 13 years."

Quote KF at 15:56 on August 25th, 2008 -

"...(I have been contemplating the idea since I first became a target - 13 years)..."

"...Therefore, I suffer. The voice to skull has been done to me now (full time 24/7/365) since February 2000..."

I consider the accounts before the events of 9-11-2001 that are mostly concerned with artificially projected sound to be different but related to what started happening after.

I suggest you read or view the account of Kay Griggs.

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anon231

Sorry, I meant 8 years and 5 months, also plus 4 would be 12 years and 5 months.

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anon231

Sorry, I meant 8 years and 5 months, also plus 4 would be 12 years and 5 months.

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anon231

I forgot to ask, why would narcotics traffickers be after you?

If you can say why.

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KF

OK, I got my dates mixed up. My ex-fiance became involved with a meth gang behind my back. These were not just your ordinary punks. From what I now know, they were HEAVILY involved with dealing and manufacturing it back in the early to mid 1990's. A few of them have done hard time in prison. I was unaware of this back then. I have only begun to know the real truth of what went on back then. My ex continued to hang out and party with them up until the time we split up in 1995.

Later in 1995, when I had my own place, a whole string of scary events took place in my first residence living away from her.  Just to name a few things: my apartment was repeatedly broken into while I was home, I was poisoned with somethingf that almost killed me, and the apartment below me, I believe was deliberately set on fire. I believe those thugs my ex was involved with tried to kill me on several occasions. Shortly after that in 1995, I became a victim of voice to skull (V2K). 

The V2K was being done to me only at certain times of the day, and at "oprturtune" times, when I was being gangstalked. The V2K and gangstalking was done by the same people no doubt, due to the fact it was coordinated so perfectly. Then, their intensity of street theatre and gangstalking picked up in 1999. I went to the police several times thinking my life was really in danger. Nevertheless, the stalkers and V2K perps had orchestrated this whole thing to get me "labeled" in the system as "crazy, delusional, wacko, schizo, etc..." Before I knew what hit me, they had succeeded. After I was booked on a 5150, the V2K has been 24/7/365 since February 2000.

Now, they can harass me from "long distance" with V2K only - rather than actually physically gangstalking me like they did back in the 90's. Nowdays, it's ONLY voice to skull that they are doing. But, if need arose, I'd bet they'd start screwing with me again in person. 

Sorry I got my dates mixed up. I do have all of this info written down and documented as to specific dates and times, I just don't remember all of them off the top of my head - I've been a target and a victim for so frickin long. So, I'm unsure WHEN this gang actually started targeting me. I do know that some violent things involving poison and chemicals suspiciously happened to me a couple of times while I was living with my ex in 1990 and 1991; those events were probably connected to the gangstalking as well.

I could write a book on my life asa victim. Everything I have posted on this blog is really jsut the tip of the iceberg. I have many more details that would probably take 20 pages to write out, I I keep things relatively short here. I know people don't really come to blogs like this to read a bunch of LLLOOOONNNNGGGG stories about being victimized.      

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KF

By "getting the word out" you run the risk of alienating non-targets (regular average Joes) from the cause.

I suggest getting the word out also. However, it must be done in a fashion that doesn't create an image that portrays us TI's in a negative way (paranoid, delusional, etc...). Getting the word out is what is needed, but it must be done INTELLIGENTLY - not irresponsibly.

We wan't the mainstream to take us seriously - not "shut us out" We want the mainstream to genuinely believe us that what we are saying about being targeted victims is real and justified. We don't want to be considered wacko or crazy by the mainstream. We want the mainstream and the authorities who have the power to put a stop to this harassment to know the truth.

We are real victims, and the stalkers are real as well.

 

 

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penny copper2

My previous two attemps to post yesterday didn’t work. I was also having problems with emails!!! Computer problems? My computer logged out all by itself on several occassions over the past two weeks.?????

Getting the word out doesn't mean a dissertation on every aspect of your experience. It means sending out a note with links to sites that you find best address your specific form off harassment. The harassment, especially cyber stalking, is a now topic and you’re just taking it one step in another direction. How much of this is civil? My research shows that their are for hire groups that do this for corporations, individuals, far right and far left groups like the Right to Lifers and Animal Rights etc., etc. That they are is the problem and that they are legal is doubtful. And, about money, obviously you have an internet connection and there are legal sites (constitutional rights, civil liberties) where you can find legal assistance and it is free. In my situation I have stated that it was imperative for the attorney to review the information contained in the Psychological Harassment Information Association web site prior to speaking with me. Review of information that's presented in this manner is a good way to validate an unbelievable experience.

Inaction is the outcome & perpetuates emotional abuse and these situations are extremely emotionally abusive. The idea of being helpless also perpetuates inaction and feeds depression.

Psychology 101 Targets of abuse do not come forward because of fear (aka paranoia). These groups feed on fear. They may also contribute to sites such as this in order to induce additional fear. Why would the government spend such vast amounts of money on everyday, ordinary citizens? It is more likely that a targets has stepped on someone's toes and this is just some kind of vendetta. Or, they are a whistle blower.

It also appears they are peopled by people in every walk of life and targets are also peopled from every walk of life. The point it, the target has committed no crime or the true Justice System would be called into play.

Yesterday I sent out about 150 emails. Today I received an email from a person who wasn’t on that list saying she had gotten an email from someone in California. She also knew of a young girl that was being cyber bullied. That this could infact be helpful to her parents. Megan Meier was only 13 and cyber bullying put her over the edge. This as unfortunate as it is, has opened the door to bring this to the surface.
Psychology 101A --- Seven plus or minus two are all the new information that a person generally takes in. Getting the word out is a building block process.

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duhdoc

I totally agree with KF.  getting the word out must be from reasonable people. 

I have been a victim for more than 13 years and follow these conversations with keen interest.  I also never respond to these conversations.  maybe fear of retaliation but more so because many of you complainers may be mentally ill or on drugs or maybe some of the complainers have good reason for being followed.  With that said, 

gangstalking is real.  it is a crime.  it must be stopped.  don't waste your time trying to catch them, they are too practiced and the little evidence you do get proves nothing.  CALL YOUR SENATORS, CONGRESSMEN.  and most of all contact your local city council.  they are responsible for protecting citizens at the ground level.


keep the faith and stay sane.  good luck everyone.


duhdoc




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anon231

Quote duhdoc - "I totally agree with KF. getting the word out must be from reasonable people."

Well, I don't think anyone would disagree with that, except possibly a few unreasonable people.

Quote duhdoc - "I have been a victim for more than 13 years and follow these conversations with keen interest."

Since you identified with KF, are you implying that you are a victim of the artificial sound projection, surveillance and some stalking too? Anyone who has been victimized by these assault squads and aware should follow postings and constructively contribute what they can, if they are able to.

Quote duhdoc - "I also never respond to these conversations."

I too, never respond to these conversations. ;)

Quote duhdoc - "maybe fear of retaliation..."

I assume you mean retaliation from those that you say attack you?

Quote duhdoc - "...but more so because many of you complainers may be mentally ill or on drugs or maybe some of the complainers have good reason for being followed. With that said..."

Now this statement is where you are really losing me. Just suggesting any one of what I call the "big three", would cause the general public to believe these assault squads when they say they are justified in their actions. The big three are *almost never* said by real victims but always said by operatives of these crimes. These suggestions help the stalkers build the case of "the exception becomes the rule". If the public can be convinced by the stalkers that only one victim deserves these attacks because of their behavior, then *all* victims can be seen as that one.
And another thing *nobody* regardless of their behavior *deserves* to be tortured, there are not "justifiable reasons" for torture.

Quote duhdoc - "...gangstalking is real. it is a crime. it must be stopped."

Agreed.

Quote duhdoc - "don't waste your time trying to catch them, they are too practiced and the little evidence you do get proves nothing."

Sorry, I don't agree here at all and have heard statements like this before from operatives. Anything you can catch them at and document is to your advantage. Furtive actions on video are evidence. Most of the stalkers are novices and they do make mistakes, the first mistake was involving themselves in the first place. If you document them committing a crime, they can and should be prosecuted.

Quote duhdoc - "CALL YOUR SENATORS, CONGRESSMEN. and most of all contact your local city council. they are responsible for protecting citizens at the ground level."

Local law enforcement agencies are responsible for protecting citizens *locally*, but unfortunately some of them may be too busy kissing the lying stalking organizers asses and or participating in it themselves.
Do you mean "at the ground level" as opposed to say, in the air?
Also, I've found that when your phone is tapped that all kinds of manipulation is not only possible but always done when you are a victim of organized stalking. Calling after a victim and saying that the previous caller has "mental problems" is the norm. And then you add that you are sorry that you lost track of them. They are off their medication and got to the phone while you were distracted and you'll try not to let them call again. ;)

Quote duhdoc - "keep the faith and stay sane. good luck everyone."

Yeah, you too pal.

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Penny copper2

Good reason for being stalked is like the olden days where a woman was blamed for being raped --- her skirt was too short or she ran around with a lot of men. Hey --- don't blame the target. This is illegal activity --- and if there were good cause it would be addressed via the real justice system -- not some bunch of idots. Again and again --- if some people who have responded are having emotional issues it may well be a result of this experience and that is the intention to INDUCE psychological illness. Call help lines --- call legal aid -- emotional abuse of this nature is severe.

Getting the word out responsibily is simply telling the truth. Your truth --- without second guessing yourself --- self doubt --- is a result of emotional abuse. This is psychological harassment --- it kills --- someone out there has turned their own self hatred on the target and it doesn't have anything to do with the target. DON'T GIVE OUT BLAME --- MORE GUILT TO A PROCESS THAT IS MEANT TO FEED ON GUILT AND PSYCHOLOGICAL DYSFUNCTION.

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KF

I totally commend all TI's (or victims) of GS and V2K for trying to "get the word out." It's good to see victims making an effort and trying to raise the public awareness.

I realize that not all TI's are REAL victims. Some may be just insane, and only think they are victims. But, I don't doubt that even if they are crazy now, it doesn't mean that they've never been a real target. They could have been a target, and then just "lost it," because they couldn't handle it anymore. God bless them.

I'm sure there are perps spreading disinformation, and posing as victims. I wonder about some of the efforts of some TI's that post on youtube, for example. I'll have to admit I've seen some examples that may hurt the cause more than help it. I don't know if some of the TI's that post videos on youtube realize what they're actually doing - how "amatuer" or "meaningless" some of their videos are. I commend them, nevertheless, if they are real targets, and I know they only mean well.  

But, honestly, I've watched a lot of those videos, and they really don't show very much of anything. The victims or TI's making the videos may be real victims, but the videos are, to be honest, feeble and meaningless. In addition, they create "negative publicity" for other victims, simply because most average Joes (non-targets) are going to watch the videos, and think to themselves, "I don't see any stalkers?? WTF??" Then this reaction is reflected in the commments. You'll see comments like: "You're crazy, go take your meds." Or, "what mental hospital did you get out of?" Or, "It doesn't look like anything out of the ordinary to me." 

It's unfortunate to see comments like that. Because the regular non-target person who watches the videos has no idea that the TI who made the videos may very well be a REAL target and stalking victim. Now, I know that some of the negative comments probably come from stalkers and perpetrators. Also, I think ther might be stalkers and perps deliberately making "meaningless" videos, to make all TI's look stupid and crazy. It's their way of counteracting any public awareness efforts of REAL stalking victims.

For example, there's a series of videos from a man who claims that the government implanted a receiver in his head, and harasses him with voice to skull. In his videos, he goes on and on about how the governments "beams" voices into his head from outer space from a satellites. Now, I don't doubt he could be a REAL victim. Hell, I'm a victim of V2K also. But I don't think it's being done with satellites, like he says. I doubt it. That seems a little too far-fetched, even for me. Nevertheless, if that guy who makes these claims in his videos is given the benefit of the doubt, the average Joe who watches his videos is going to have a "negative" response, and is likely to comment like I mentioned above in this post. This is is an example that I think hurts the cause more than help it. Again, I commend the guy for making an effort to get the word out, but we need to go about it in a "smart, credible, and believable" way, and NOT in a "stupid, delusional, mentally ill, or just plain wacko " way. Or, as it may seem. 

I wanted to post a link to the video. I looked, but I can't seem to find it. Maybe this wasn't the guy, I don't know. I can't find the actual video where he talks about the "chip in his head that receives transmissions that are beemed down into his head from outer space via satellites," but, anyways, here's a link to the guy who I think says this:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=FTW76140&page=1

In one of his videos I think, he claimed the government put a "receiver implant" in his head. Now, I commend the guy for making an effort. I think he is genuine, and a real target. He also makes a lot of very good points, and knows a great deal about voice to skull. But, I'm not so sure that the average person, who watches any of his videos, is going to believe anything he says. I do, but that's only because I'm also a target of V2K. But, "Satellites beaming voices into my head?" Come on! That sounds absurd - even I know that is too-farfetched. (Although I havn't been able to rule this out, it just seems so highly unlikely, and it's just not very plausible.) You will see a lot of videos on youtube like his, and ones by other victims as well that are similar.  

But, realistically I bet most of the negative comments come from regular people, that "stumble upon" the stalker videos, they watch them, and their reaction is "WTF?" That's just my gut feeling though, that most of the negative comments are from regular people, not from the stalkers. Maybe I'm wrong about this though.

Anyways, in addition to the youtube videos, there's  websites all over the internet, that I'm sure draw the same negative response from non-targets.   

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