VP Dick Cheney's Office Suggested Waterboarding Iraqi Prisoner

Why am I not surprised...

If this report gave a name of  a person it would be more believable.

It may be true but if so it should have been made public when it happened.

This article is pure crap, and frankly you should be embarrassed for linking to it.

Just sayin'

Cheney is probably the greatest American political figure of our generation. He fought a war for eight years against massive odds. They did it with the smallest casualty rate in modern history and did not destroy prosperity on the home front. When you consider what the AQ wanted to do, a few guys getting their surf boards out is the least of our worries. Walk tall troopers!

It should be only a matter of time before all that has occurred during the Bush administration, renaming prisoners of war detainees and enemy combatants to avoid affording them the treatment due them as prisoners of war, redefining torture and crafting policy to justify torturing prisoners held in U.S. custody, many who were disappeared and secreted away to unknown locations, is fully exposed.

The blatant disregard for U.S. and international law endangered all of America's citizens.

Former President Cheney, appearing on Face the Nation on May 10, 2009, as former Secretary of State Rice has done previously, implicated former President Bush in authorizing torture as well.

An excerpt from the above linked transcript of the Face the Nation interview with Dick Cheney:

SCHIEFFER: How much did President Bush know specifically about the methods that were being used?

We know that you-- and you have said-- that you approved this...

CHENEY: Right.

SCHIEFFER: ... somewhere down the line. Did President Bush know everything you knew?

CHENEY: I certainly, yes, have every reason to believe he knew -- he knew a great deal about the program. He basically authorized it. I mean, this was a presidential-level decision. And the decision went to the president. He signed off on it.

What's your point Karen?  It seems to me the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee signed off on it too.  If they didn't, they certainly condoned it.  These allegations back and forth across the isle are childish.  What's needed here is an honest bipartisan debate, not a crucifiction of one party against the other.

You might note that President Obama has already backtracked on releasing military abuse pictures later on this months.  The administration is also pondering what to do with the terriorists and are approaching Congress to hold some indefinitely without a trial. 

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/administration-ponders-detaining-terror-suspects-indefinitely

I think the Obama Administration is finding out that this whole issue is a lot more complicated than signing and exucutive order.  An  old man once said Don't let common sense become so rare that it is mistaken for genius.

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"President Obama and his thugs he brought to Washington will be the worst administration"

Well, i guess Americans should be in the position to pass that judgment at the end of President Obama and his "thugs" first 4 years or 8 years in office. However, we know that the last administration owns that title. Just a reminder; President Obama was elected into office to clean up the mess the last administration left the country in.

President W. Bush and VP Cheney inherited a healthy economy with surplus, a country at peace, and respected all over the world, No wars. I should not remind you QueensHart the condition they left the country at the end of their administration.

By the way if water boarding worked, how come OBL and his second in-command are still at large? Don't you think his where about should have been the first information they give up considering how important (dead or alive) they were to the administration.

Offering the argument that torture may have worked ignores the reality that torture is against the law, U.S. federal and international.

For months, while all of the torture was occurring, while the re-definition of prisoners of war and the rest occurred, the Bush administration boldly discussed it's belief that the Geneva Conventions were outdated and should not be followed and proceeded to ignore them.

Yet, as signators of the Conventions, unless the international laws had been re-written or changed, the Bush administration was bound to uphold them, as written into U.S. federal law. 

Because the Bush administration presented a deluded dissertation on torture, attempting to pretend torture wasn't torture doesn't mean torture was not torture.

If America is to re-claim the assertion that it is a nation guided and ruled by laws, all efforts, using whatever may be at its disposal, must be used to dissect how the country plunged into illegal and immoral activity, as it pretended it could do so by enacting and using the Bush administration's contrived and convoluted view for rationalizing ignoring the law. 

This is nothing but parlour room debate. Nice if you are in university and trying to get in with some hottie, but Cheney and Bush had to live in the real world after 9/11. I remember how paralysed and cowardly most of Congress was, and the British parliament and most European governments. Once they cried their crocodile tears over the dead, they spent the rest of the time sitting on their hands (and doing even, worse shovelling billions into various dodgy muslim groups). I put my security in Cheney's hands any day.

Torture is immoral, people under torture say what the interrogator wants to hear in order for the torture to stop. People have confessed to crimes they have not committed and twenty years later been released from prison - torture doesnt even work. Is torture permitted by God ? Cruel and unusual punishment is against the US constitution is it not ?