VP Dick Cheney's Office Suggested Waterboarding Iraqi Prisoner

Why am I not surprised...

If this report gave a name of  a person it would be more believable.

It may be true but if so it should have been made public when it happened.

This article is pure crap, and frankly you should be embarrassed for linking to it.

Just sayin'

Cheney is probably the greatest American political figure of our generation. He fought a war for eight years against massive odds. They did it with the smallest casualty rate in modern history and did not destroy prosperity on the home front. When you consider what the AQ wanted to do, a few guys getting their surf boards out is the least of our worries. Walk tall troopers!

It should be only a matter of time before all that has occurred during the Bush administration, renaming prisoners of war detainees and enemy combatants to avoid affording them the treatment due them as prisoners of war, redefining torture and crafting policy to justify torturing prisoners held in U.S. custody, many who were disappeared and secreted away to unknown locations, is fully exposed.

The blatant disregard for U.S. and international law endangered all of America's citizens.

I respectfully disagree Karen.  It actually will be only a matter or time before we all see that

President Obama and his thugs he brought to Washington will be the worst administration

ever.  He is ruining the economy, the US Central Bank and the dollar.  All this that actually

saved our lives so we could sit here and express ourselves is going to be found out as absolutely necessary.  Now we are seeing the destruction of America.  In stead of posting

an article every week about this "history" that warriors and military men have been doing to

get us to the place we are you better start taking lessons on how to speak asian languages  for

America is being destroyed by the radical lefties. 

 Obama was elected because of several wrong reasons.  We are on a fast moving train now

with no breaks.   Bernie Quigley says, " Obama's Presidency , like James Buchanon's and Benjamin Harrison's, is the end of a wavelength".  Now we will watch a new beginning. 

I want to be in on creating this new place we have to go for our children's sakes.  A lot of

liars will get their due whether we blog about it or not.

Former President Cheney, appearing on Face the Nation on May 10, 2009, as former Secretary of State Rice has done previously, implicated former President Bush in authorizing torture as well.

An excerpt from the above linked transcript of the Face the Nation interview with Dick Cheney:

SCHIEFFER: How much did President Bush know specifically about the methods that were being used?

We know that you-- and you have said-- that you approved this...

CHENEY: Right.

SCHIEFFER: ... somewhere down the line. Did President Bush know everything you knew?

CHENEY: I certainly, yes, have every reason to believe he knew -- he knew a great deal about the program. He basically authorized it. I mean, this was a presidential-level decision. And the decision went to the president. He signed off on it.

What's your point Karen?  It seems to me the ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee signed off on it too.  If they didn't, they certainly condoned it.  These allegations back and forth across the isle are childish.  What's needed here is an honest bipartisan debate, not a crucifiction of one party against the other.

You might note that President Obama has already backtracked on releasing military abuse pictures later on this months.  The administration is also pondering what to do with the terriorists and are approaching Congress to hold some indefinitely without a trial. 

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/administration-ponders-detaining-terror-suspects-indefinitely

I think the Obama Administration is finding out that this whole issue is a lot more complicated than signing and exucutive order.  An  old man once said Don't let common sense become so rare that it is mistaken for genius.

The majority of people still believe in torture to save thousands of people.  It is also a matter

of sacrificing one for another.  It' life.  People will nail themselves on their own cross. Consequences come for all people who have been evil , liars, motivated for personal glorification, judgemental  without having all knowledge.  Anyone, me included will experience immediate consequences for being a bullshitter  and later on judgement day too. 

Vengeance is mine saith the Lord I will repay.  We have to watch many people appear to get away with wrong doing but the body never lies.  It is in the tissue..in the marrow of the bone..in the heart..in the soul...thank God we do not have to be the judges. 

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"President Obama and his thugs he brought to Washington will be the worst administration"

Well, i guess Americans should be in the position to pass that judgment at the end of President Obama and his "thugs" first 4 years or 8 years in office. However, we know that the last administration owns that title. Just a reminder; President Obama was elected into office to clean up the mess the last administration left the country in.

President W. Bush and VP Cheney inherited a healthy economy with surplus, a country at peace, and respected all over the world, No wars. I should not remind you QueensHart the condition they left the country at the end of their administration.

By the way if water boarding worked, how come OBL and his second in-command are still at large? Don't you think his where about should have been the first information they give up considering how important (dead or alive) they were to the administration.

You cannot say any kind of torture did not work for Obama won't release all the info..they

don't want us to know that.  Do you think OBL is around?  People who want to fly planes

and destroy thousands of people  are mini clones of OBL...informatin about their specific

plans and places they are going to destroy is the information the interrogator wants .  We

have many OBL's ..we must stop.  Do you honestly think because we have not has another

terrorist attack on our soil  is related to OBL being in a cave...(maybe) somewhere?  To

believe that the whole Bush Ad was an evil empire is the people who have no objective

knowledge and serious problems of wanting to be Kings who know absolutely nothing

about why we are where we are.  People need to be working on their own salvation .

The judgement will be passed with other thugs who are in congress who are stealing right

and left.   This whole country is operated by a lot of mentally ill  people who hate...HATE>

ANY AUTHORITY.   who are most likely ungrounded in any kind of reality...basically

schizo.  You can always easily find a bunch of conspiracy idiots who need this displaced

rage from their own lives who so need to throw stones ..it is way too psychological and

spiritual to even try to discuss with the masses of people who are the "shadow" of america

now.   A new party will be forming my friend.  It won't be from people who need to

judge  and  try to constantly take the inventory without all the info..We do not need to give

our enemies all the info of how we work..that hurts our boys who are fighting so we can

fight here...doing nothing to keep our country safe.

I am ready for  real change...

Offering the argument that torture may have worked ignores the reality that torture is against the law, U.S. federal and international.

For months, while all of the torture was occurring, while the re-definition of prisoners of war and the rest occurred, the Bush administration boldly discussed it's belief that the Geneva Conventions were outdated and should not be followed and proceeded to ignore them.

Yet, as signators of the Conventions, unless the international laws had been re-written or changed, the Bush administration was bound to uphold them, as written into U.S. federal law. 

Because the Bush administration presented a deluded dissertation on torture, attempting to pretend torture wasn't torture doesn't mean torture was not torture.

If America is to re-claim the assertion that it is a nation guided and ruled by laws, all efforts, using whatever may be at its disposal, must be used to dissect how the country plunged into illegal and immoral activity, as it pretended it could do so by enacting and using the Bush administration's contrived and convoluted view for rationalizing ignoring the law. 

This is nothing but parlour room debate. Nice if you are in university and trying to get in with some hottie, but Cheney and Bush had to live in the real world after 9/11. I remember how paralysed and cowardly most of Congress was, and the British parliament and most European governments. Once they cried their crocodile tears over the dead, they spent the rest of the time sitting on their hands (and doing even, worse shovelling billions into various dodgy muslim groups). I put my security in Cheney's hands any day.

Getting heavy at times can and does work. It is up to a professional to make the decision as to when and how. Anybody who has served knows how to using various techniques to extract information and to control prisoners. The key point is that it is done by professionals who are accountable to a system. Flying planes into buildings is immoral, chopping women's heads off for adultary is immoral, executing gays is immoral, beating little children is immoral.