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The war on Terror, a big question! the size of the enemy?
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by Babel-Fish | November 16, 2009 at 02:34 pm
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Grab your self a coffee please and lets look at a big problem that George Bush did not know when he declared war on terror. Now nearly ever big nation joined in this war and gave backing and gave applause to George Bush’s venture, without realizing a very big problem.
But wait a minute how many terrorist are we actually talking about, 150 or 80,000 or 800,000? How can we win with out actually knowing the strength of the said enemy? We sent troops to 2 wars the one in Iraq was defiantly not related too eradicating terrorist it however once won attracted loads of enemies that we now refer to as terrorist.
The war in Afghanistan well yes the said terrorist where hiding there if we can believe what we where told however the Taliban were not terrorist, but of course they are now. What the hell are we doing?
The worlds most powerful nation declared war on terror and at that point we all rallied to the call because of 9/11 but what the hell went wrong what has actually happened is we have in fact exculpated terrorism and its recruitment within Islam society, where there is an approximate potential 800,000 guys that could be prepared to answer a call to Jihad.
The biggest problem is many of these potential Jihadist are amongst the people that have migrated to the west. The more Muslims that are killed on the battle field especially innocent civilians the stronger the recruitment drive, and the more Muslims that join the terrorist cause.
Winning the war in Afghanistan and in Iraq is not achieving the aim of the war on terror it just adds fuel to a damn big fire.
Perhaps when these wars initiated by the Americans were started in the name of a war on terror, leaders should have sat down and pondered the fact they had no real clue about the size of the enemy nor, the size of the enemies recruitment base. Plus the fact the wars were seen as an attack on Islam by those that would respond to the call of Jihad and the many more that will do so.
Oh my estimation on the size of the enemy
Reference the 800,000 possible Jidahist's
85-90% Sunni
[q url ="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Sunni"] Islam consists of a number of religious denominations that are essentially similar in belief but which have significant theological and legal differences. The primary division is between the Sunni and the Shi'a, with Sufism generally considered to be a mystical inflection of Islam rather than a distinct school. According to most sources, approximately 85% of the world's Muslims are Sunni, 14% are Shi'a with the 1% beiing other various small minorities and Islamic sects.[145][/q]
5% follow the 6 Pillar's (4th concerns Jidah's)
Jihad means "to strive or struggle" (in the way
of God) and is considered the "Sixth Pillar of Islam" by a minority of Sunni Muslim
authorities.[63] Jihad, in its broadest sense, is classically defined as "exerting one's utmost
power, efforts, endeavors, or ability in contending with an object of disapprobation." Depending
on the object being a visible enemy, the devil, and aspects of one's own self, different categories
of Jihad are defined.[64] Jihad, when used without any qualifier, is understood in its military
aspect.[65][66] Jihad also refers to one's striving to attain religious and moral perfection.[67]
Some Muslim authorities, especially among the Shi'a and Sufis, distinguish between the "greater
jihad", which pertains to spiritual self-perfection, and the "lesser jihad", defined as warfare.
1 in 10 maybe fundlamentalistic
1.6 billion Muslims
1,600,000,000/10 = 160,000,000 x 9 = 1440000000/100*5 = 72,000,000/100 = 720,000
I just rounded up to 800,000 for luck
At a guess 8,000 known and a total possibility of 30,000 active terrorist around the globe.
Of course this is just theory and plucking numbers from the air as I also have no real clue but I have a gut feeling that I am very close.
I hope you enjoyed your coffee…
I am still looking for evidence that gives better indication of the size of the enemy or there recruitment cannon fodder....
Well this survey really throws my figures out....
(CNSNews.com) – A new survey gauging Muslim attitudes indicates that backing for suicide bombings against civilians, while generally down from earlier years, remains significant in some Islamic countries – challenging the assertion that Muslims supporting terrorism constitute a “tiny minority.”
In the Pew Global Attitudes Project poll released on Thursday, 68 percent of Palestinian Muslim respondents said suicide bombings against civilians were justifiable “to defend Islam from its enemies.”
That view was shared by 43 percent of respondents in Nigeria and 38 percent in Lebanon, where 51 percent of Shi’ites held the view compared to 25 percent of Sunnis.
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at 14:36 on November 16th, 2009
Many good points. You have a problem in Mindanao, don't you? Muslim separatists?
at 14:40 on November 16th, 2009
They are actually gangsters that use the Islamic religion as an excuse for their crimes. I very much doubt if many of them have even read the Koran.
at 15:05 on November 16th, 2009
You.re partially right in your analysis. The problem was that Al Quaeda was being harboured in a failed state. This prompted the UN to undertake this venture.
As in Iraq the didn.t plan for what would happen after the Taliban were driven into the Southern provinces. The UN once again failed miserably with coducting military operations and nations chose where they wanted to start rebuilding. This was also a repeat of Bosnia just a decade earlier.
Eventually NATO took over with ISAF, which was orginally a European operation. They set up in the Provinces in the North while Britain, Australia, Canada, the Dutch and a few other took on the heavy lifting in both Kandahar and Hellmand Province.
The constant drone and air attack, with considerable death and destruction to the civilian population. This of course spurred the insurgency that you speak of in your story.
What remains now is how to resolve this situation a save face.
at 15:12 on November 16th, 2009
Sorry wrote my comments and forgot to recommend. Good post Babel.
at 15:20 on November 16th, 2009
Hope you took a good sip of your coffee first, lol Thank's and I did not notice the comment was that good
at 15:31 on November 16th, 2009
Way past coffee time here mate:) Use your imagination lol.
at 16:06 on November 16th, 2009
Just added some figure a complete estimate as I am not in possession of highly classified intel. Just plucking figures from the air.
30,000 active terrorist maybe too steep 3,000 maybe?
at 16:26 on November 16th, 2009
I made a similar estimate in a different and related post. We agree. You provide more essential details and of course, much more explanation and analysis would require a longer stay at Starbucks.
at 16:45 on November 16th, 2009
It's a cut and paste job the article is getting longer as the intel gets better, but at a guess yes it would take a long session at starbuck's to get at the truth how big is the said enemy.
But we know that recruitment is going well and its going to be hard to stop. Its my opinion that the war on terror will never be won. It should of just been a war on Bin Laden taking out trouble makers that were not on the terrorist list has effectively added a much bigger problems.