WERE FORT HOOD SHOOTINGS A GANG STALKING CATASTROPHE?

by PeaceFrog | November 7, 2009 at 08:32 pm

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There have been a lot of repetitive stories and information bandied about regarding the Fort Hood massacre. "Independent media" is largely abandoning a genuine investigation of this case, and, keeping the issues and reporting narrow enough to enable government misconduct to escape the court of informed public opinion. Yet, despite these glaring omissions and unanswered questions, this case presents an unavoidable question of motive and organized harassment. It has been widely reported that the shooter, Nidal Malik Hasan, was subjected to organized harassment. This included taunting for his political views on the wars in the middle east, as well as, direct attack on his faith. The real question is, was this a case of gang stalking/community-based harassment? Along with the hostile work environment suffered by Hasan, he also faced harassment off-base by neighbors. A fellow serviceman vandalized his car, including ripping off a religious bumper sticker. A police report was made of the incident. His workplace mobbing was intense enough for him to have hired a military lawyer to try to get out of his upcoming deployment as a psychiatric doctor in Afghanistan. Noteworthy is that the name of the lawyer, and the specific allegations made regarding the extent of his harassment are absent from all press accounts. It goes without saying that, after an incident of this magnitude, the military and FBI protected their asses by debriefing anyone with first-hand knowledge of his situation and the extent of his harassment claims. If Hasan was the victim of gang stalking then the evidence is there to find. It is in his community, his fellow officers, neighbors, and family would surely know the extent of his harassment. Unfortunately, no-one seems to be probing these questions. If Hasan was the victim of an FBI GANG STALKING COINTELPRO being conducted at a military venue then the exposure of this would lead to a full-blown Congressional investigation, and, the end of the social engineering experiment known as gang stalking. Besides the lack of obvious questions noted above, one can look at Hasan's behavior shortly before he "snapped" and analyze whether this may have been the behavior of a gang stalking victim aware of his 24/7 monitoring and seeking to deflect suspicions of his actions. His actions were too behaviorally consistent with his day to day life, this for a man who was about to commit the largest mass murder on a military base in the history of this country. He shopped at 7/11 the night before in his usual muslim garb. He paid a neighbor to do some chores for him just before his "departure". This seems to indicate a knowledge that he was being not only systematically harassed, but, constantly monitored in the 24/7 gang stalking protocol. So, it is likely that he never snapped, he knew he was being driven to a forced suicide by the community and he struck back at the community. The intentionality, bloodletting and magnitude of the attack belie any suicide-by-proxy interpretation.

A gang stalking COINTELPRO lasting for years will in most instances lead to the nullification of the target through forced suicide, involuntary commitment to a mental institution, imprisonment, or, homelessnes with severe mental illness ("effective marginalization"). The second most likely outcome will be a murder, usually of someone not related to the gang stalking conspiracy, but rather, a family member such as a spouse (this is something that will be easily written off as a psychotic episode). A third outcome is the retaliation against a part of the hostile community affiliated with the gang stalking which serves as a "proxy" (i.e., mass violence cases). The mass violence cases are the rarest outcome, but even representing a small fraction of a percent of outcomes, are inevitable, and, over time statistically predictable. This "acceptable mortality rate" is a military concept seen in everyday military operations. Its usage in the civilian law enforcement COINTELPRO scheme context is obscene.

It is well publicized that Hasan was the subject of a federal investigation preceding the shootings by several months. Injecting undercover police and civilian informants as "neighbors" and even making "friends" with the target is standard procedure in these types of cases. In reality, these people are, at best, state monitors. Patricia Villa moved into an apartment near Hasan less than a month before the incident. She visited Hasan on both of the two days preceding the shootings. He offered her some gifts and $60 to clean out his apartment. Many COINTELPRO victims develop a paranoia due to tactics like conspicuous surveillance and infiltration. In the documentary The United States v. John Lennon, Lennon described his paranoia, developed as a long-term COINTELPRO victim, as being severe enough for him to isolate. He ended up fearing friends and associates in the years preceding his murder, most of them, having nothing to do with the government's campaign against him. Likewise, Hasan's obvious awareness of being targeted and mobbed affected his psychological state. It is completely plausible that systematic harassment (i.e., gang stalking), including governement infiltration was the proximate cause of his actions. I post the following article for its detailed factual recital of his relation with Villa, and, because it demonstrates that sadly a small-town newspaper develops a fuller story than well financed national press and media outlets: http://www.roanoke.com/news/breaking/wb/225326

This case is certainly a mixed motive case. Hasan had deep religious reservations about his deployment as well as psychological issues likely including "compassionate PTSD". Nevertheless, serious reports of consistent harassment have appeared from a large number of credible sources in the wake of the incident. It also appears that the military, FBI and Congress seem to be closing ranks and going with a single issue "homegrown Jihadist" line. The failure to probe, in a systematic and thorough manner, the harassment motive is very detrimental. How can you ignore what was clearly an ongoing issue in Hasan's daily life? Who benefits when politics shape the very questions probing this issue? Certainly the military can view 13 dead and 40 odd wounded as similar to a bad day in the war. Is it fair for the military to escape scrutinay and make the truth about motive a casualty by seeking to squash questions tending to embarass it? The Washington Post had a recent article that raised the issue of religious/racial harassment and the oversimplified framing of the question of motive. I suggest this for further reading:

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/sally_quinn/2009/11/fort_hood_about_religion_but_also_more.html

Hasan has been described as a loner. One person likely to have had an opinion about his treatment at Fort Hood was an Imam from Yemen who was in regular contact with him. He will never speak again since he was killed this month in a surgical strike against Al-Qaeda in Yemen. (The U.S. gave a whopping 70 million for "counter-terrorism" to Yemen, or, less than 1% of the billions given for the same purpose to Pakistan every year; good work Yemen, its the first time I've heard of a successful counter-terrorism strike in Yemen!). Do I have to become a cooincedence theorist, or, is this Imam sounding like a Jack Ruby figure?

Independent bloggers and journalists at sites like NowPublic do not have the resources that the major media has to do a proper investigative expose on the shootings. What we can do is ask the right questions. Garbage-in Garbage-out applies to journalism. If the issues and questions are never raised to explore the relationship between Hasan's harassment and the shootings, the programmatic and very, very destructive gang stalking that could be behind this massacre will never be exposed. This is ultimately an injustice to the families of the slain victims.

There are other factors that must be investigated related to Fort Hood. Since at least the early 1970's, Fort Hood has been a major training area for Psychological Operations ("PSYOPS), often with the participation of CIA. There are also a growing number of members of the Church of Wicca ("Wiccans") amongst the officers ranks, numbering in the dozens if not hundreds. Both of these variables could have played into mind control ("MC") and/or Gang Stalking against Hasan and others at Fort Hood.

The author has recently come across one of the best articles relating to the incident out of the dozens he has read. The article argues twelve points of deliberate disinformation spread by the Administration, Congress and mainsream media patsys relating to Hasan and the shootings:

http://exiledonline.com/fort-hood-cover-up-a-dozen-tales-of-disinformation/

PLEASE PARTICIPATE IN A GANG STALKING POLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Scrivener

at 00:45 on November 8th, 2009

Community-based? You mean, at the world's largest military base, ARMY-based, don't you? And how many times a day was Hasan hit by microwave/laser radiation directed energy weapons emanating from cell towers and assisted by military satellites?

But you ignore the possibility that Hasan was used as a patsy, as stalking victims sometimes are, and may not have done the shooting at all... or had help, other gunmen... (VA Tech comes to mind)...

...or was under the influence of microwave weapons that affected his behavior. The stalking alone doesn't usually drive someone to become a zombie, but relentless directed energy weapons attack degrades the nervous system, impairs cognition, and makes one susceptible to suggestion -- a Manchurian Candidate.

Here's my take, a gentler treatment than yours because I published this at washingtonpost.com/thefix and I am trying to get the mainstream media to entertain the possibility that there's much more to this than a soldier snapping or Al Queda invading an Army base. Perhaps the goal was to generate another ginned up crisis, conjuring up doubts about Muslims among the military force, another reason to expand the war in Afghanistan. Just a theory, of course...

That's bigger than "gang stalking," and "gang stalking" is just part of a covert government program of political and social genocide, or so my personal experiences and my report indicate. Could this have been a purposeful sacrifice of innocents to achieve an ideological goal... sound familiar?

http://nowpublic.com/world/ft-hood-massacre-echoes-9-11-gulf-tonkin

Emmanuel Goldstein (not verified)

at 19:43 on November 9th, 2009

You know, rants like yours discredit the reality of gang stalking by associating it with space satellite microwave radiation and other equally impractical techniques. Perhaps that is your intent, to instantly discredit the existence of gang stalking by claiming the use _tin foil hat_ techniques? Or are you truly nuts? Anyone reading the article above would immediately discredit it once they read your post.Gang stalking is being used as a policing technique that would be _grossly_ illegal if it were accomplished by law enforcement personnel and _that_ is precisely why it is allowed, ignored and, when necessary, covered up. The information obtained is highly useful to what has become a police state and easily makes its way to law enforcement at every level, local, state and federal. The fact is that they value the information more than they value the lives lost in the occasional mass killings that result from the surveillance/harassment. That is why they constantly cover up. Who needs COINTELPRO or Total Information Awareness programs when they've got something 100 times as "good." They can simply drive their targets to suicide or to murderous rampages followed by death by cop or, at best, imprisonment.The last case I recall that was very obviously blowback from gang stalking was the Jiverly Wong rampage. This case is most likely another one. It fits the pattern for military-based harassment.

PeaceFrog

at 11:54 on November 10th, 2009

There is a real problem with government disinformation agents discrediting legitimate attempts to inform the public. This is nothing new, whenever government agencies seek to shield misconduct from the public, campaigns include disinformation by government propagandists. The motive here is huge, even in a mixed-motive case of gang stalking that pushes a target to mass murder, the exposure of agents and subagents (i.e., informants) could devastate the agencies involved. This harkens back to the Church and Pike Committee's in the 70's when the CIA demanded its agents in newspapers and the media not be disclosed to the public. For gang stalking to occur under color of law requires a presence by authorities in all large institutions, but, foremost in the press and media.

anon comment (not verified)

at 14:40 on November 10th, 2009

Thank you both - PeaceFrog and Emmanuel Goldstein - for your pragmatic, no-nonsense approach to this critical issue. We know, as PeaceFrog states, "There is a real problem with government disinformation agents discrediting legitimate attempts to inform the public." Having said this, I'm reminded of Winston Churchill's remark about the world of covert operations: “In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.” It's heartening to know that there are reasonable people attempting to expose and stop a practice that is decidedly unAmerican. Let's get this issue exposed and stopped.

Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

at 03:31 on November 8th, 2009

Here is an an extract of an account written by Washington Posts Philip Rucker, which sheds a light on the life of Major Hasan. after his arrival at Fort Hood. Your article certainly points out that there are many missing pieces to this story. I suspect that all these points will be covered in the investigation.

Personally I would not jump to the conclusion that this was gang stalking, although there is certainly an element of harassment here.

The two occasionally would sit together in plastic chairs beneath a wind chime on the landing outside her second-floor apartment, she recalled. She was Christian and he was Muslim, but they shared coffee and talked about God. But this morning, Hasan said that he would be deploying to Afghanistan soon and that he did not want to go. He gave her a copy of the Koran.

"I'm going to do good work for God," he told her.

Then he walked downstairs, through the grassy courtyard, stepped into his silver Honda Civic and drove to Fort Hood. Four hours later, he allegedly opened fire in the Soldier Readiness Center in a rampage that killed 13 people and wounded 38, the deadliest shooting ever on a U.S. military installation.

Could you please tag this piece as Opinion.

israeli.agent

at 08:06 on November 14th, 2009

"He gave her a copy of the Koran. "

What would have happened if someone handed this Major a copy of XYZ123 religious book?

In the first case it is secular gesture and national integration

In the second, it is religious harassment.

.Agent.

Hugh Askew

at 04:02 on November 8th, 2009

The man shot - and killed, in cold blood - innocent people.

Please, if we are allowed to kill others because of real or imagined offenses, then we all best be stocking up on the guns and ammo.

Every mass murderer is justified in his own eyes. So what.

Murder is murder.

You can add all the mumbo-jumbo you want. You can excuse his actions for any reason you like.

In the end, he made the decision - with forethought and malice - to kill, wound and destroy.

anon comment (not verified)

at 13:26 on November 9th, 2009

This isn't about excusing this man's actions -- it's about the triggers that resulted in a terrible tragedy. He'll be punished appropriately. If he was harassed, the public should be apprised of details and extent of any harassment. Whatever the truth, let's hear it. No excuses -- just the truth. We should all be able to handle the truth.

Iffy (not verified)

at 05:14 on November 8th, 2009

What a crock: according to this thinking, Martin Luther King would have been justified to just skip the civil rights movement and buy an AK47 and go kill white school children. That is the nutty thesis you are peddling here. This guy was a priviliged and well-educated man. Who knew better and did this because he had bought into a radical philosophy.

PeaceFrog

at 05:33 on November 8th, 2009

I am in no way condoning or justifying his actions. I am merely saying that the public should be being much better informed about the facts of his documented systematic harassment, and, the role that it played in his motive for the massacre.

Iffy (not verified)

at 06:01 on November 8th, 2009

I am sorry: there is a long and well-establish history of resistance to injustice out there. People have fought racism etc. through demonstrations and social movements. The idea, peddled by muslims, that it is okay to just kill innocent people to address injustice, is, to be frank, sick. After eight years, not a single mass-movement muslim organisation has emerged to rally all good people to fight for justice. I think that tells you all you need to know about motivation.

veryconcerned (not verified)

at 06:56 on November 8th, 2009

Your equation of all muslims with violence is uninformed bigotry. Your adamant desire to close the case on motive when there is ample evidence of systematic harassment is foolish and illogical.

Hugh Askew

at 07:07 on November 8th, 2009

I'm impressed Iffy.

That was a very well formulated comment. Good job!

veryconcerned (not verified)

at 07:28 on November 8th, 2009

Impressed, even though the vast majorityof muslims are committed to nonviolence.Your smearing groups like CAIR and others committed to working for peaceful social justice. Perhaps such naked bigotry will lead to a witch hunt in the military and another tragedy. Bravo idiots!

veryconcerned (not verified)

at 07:33 on November 8th, 2009

Impressed with bigotry and a military witch hunt of muslims that will follow becauseof such uninformed prejudice painting them all as terrorists?

stopmuslimbashing (not verified)

at 07:39 on November 8th, 2009

The majority of muslims seek peaceful social justice and support organizations like CAIR. Your prejudicial comments, seeking to smear all muslims as violent, will only lead to an unjustified witch hunt in the military and elsewhere, laying ground for a new tragedy.

Iffy (not verified)

at 13:51 on November 8th, 2009

Most people know CAIR is at best a front organisation, at worst a wrecker bent on abusing the legal process to create space for radicals. For those who seek social justice, come forward: we've been waiting eight years and counting. I would ask you to look at the cold, hard numbers: the number of attacks, those killed (most of whom have been muslim), and the fact it was 9/11 that started the whole thing.

PeaceFrog

at 14:49 on November 8th, 2009

CAIR is mainstream, and, if you alienate the mainstream you leave nothing but the appeals of violent radicalism. Most front organizations are being dismantled and even donors have been sent away to federal prison for long sentences. As far as carnage, we invaded Iraq, a country with no nexus to 9/11. We dismantled the Bath regime, who were the only trained militia, we perforce created Al Qaeda in Iraq. The horrible truth is that, perhaps more than a million civilians died and as many as five million were displaced. Most of thsoe were collateral damage from U.S. bombings. The whole thing did not make sense.

Afghanistan is a different story. One has to ask how a third world regime could pull a superpower into a multi-trillion dollar war for the 9/11 attacks that cost Al Qaeda less than half a million dollars. This seems senseless. The situation should have been handled by a joint CIA/Special Forces surgical strike wiping out the Taliban leadership. At most, an operation like Desert Storm in 91' that crippled Iraq was called for in Afghanistan. There is a long history of failed Occupations by advanced military powers causing monetary failures and collapse of Empire. It happened to the Greeks and Romans in ancient times, and the French in Algiers, the Americans in Vietnam, the Russians in Afghanistan. Repeating failed strategies is not an answer. When you consider the Iraq and Afghanistan debacles it becomes clear that Bush the first was a genuine statesman compared to W.

Chicomansocrazy (not verified)

at 20:20 on November 9th, 2009

A history teacher told me there would be a war in Iraq 4 years before it happened. Something about the same 'ol people still wanting to get in there. He was worried knowing that things would have to be set into motion if this were to be accomplished.

Anyways, the facts need to be looked at. When I heard about the shooting, the first thing I thought of was the guy flipping out from organized stalking / harassment. The va tech shootings came to mind. One cannot jump to conclusions so I waved it off. I settled for, more than meets the eye is going on here.
The thing that got me the most though was, the media and its instant reaction to him being a Muslim. Do not get me wrong, first and foremost, this is a tragedy. And I pray for those affected. But the media has not portrayed this for what it is. A soldier killing other soldiers, or a psychiatrist killing soldiers or anything else. It was alalalalalalalaalala, terrorist inside a military compound killing apple pie eating GI Joes. I estimate that 40% of the population is dumb enough to believe without question what is portrayed right now. I think we all KNOW that the right questions are not going to be asked. And as long as the damage control corp tips off enough people that this was another case of "crazy arab-itis" they will never have to come up with a better answer. It just to perfect, the episode, the media response, the evidence that is rolling out, the impending deployment. It belongs in 24. Flipping out like that is so.. Columbine. What will be telling is the response. Want to find out who caused this? Just see who benefits from the resulting reaction and solution. I can't imagine what sh*t this is going to drum up.
But, for all I know, maybe the guy just really really didn't want to go to Afghanistan. He probably could of tripped and shot himself in the thigh.. but shooting a bunch of soldiers made more sense.
This was a middle aged educated arab in the military in a trusted position with access to soldiers in vulnerable mental state. He was probably more scrutinized than most in a similar position due to his background, age and religion. And he still got the job. So, yea, someone okay-ed this guy, I am guessing he got scrutinized more than others as well. I don't buy, guy went crazy or guy switched to the dark side or guy didn't want to go to Afghanistan excuses.

PeaceFrog

at 05:13 on November 10th, 2009

The biggest problem is the lack of awareness of organized stalking on behalf of the public. These stalking groups are all over the country and there are hundreds of thousands of victims. The fact is, any inquiry by a source able to investigate the issue properly is surely being met with "official federal investigation" (i.e., federal felony, disbarment, possibility of jail time for someone without any criminal history). I know of one person who got a letter from the ACLU stating that the gang stalking claims are a "criminal problem" (to me, given that I have a legal background, I read this as any inquiry they made about his and other complaints got a "ongoing criminal investigation" warning).

anon comment (not verified)

at 05:53 on November 10th, 2009

Sally Quinn (Washington Post 11/9/09) on Hasan's harassment: (the link follows) "As for religion, what should we make of reports that Hasan was harassed because of his religion and heritage? On one occasion, a diaper reportedly was left in his car with a note saying "That's your headdress." Another time, someone drew a camel on his car with a note saying "Camel jockey get out." It has been clear for years that evangelical and fundamentalist Christians have enormous influence in the military and have been allowed to proselytize, from the military academies to the battlefield. How much of a role did the military's evangelical subculture play on Hasan's state of mind? There should be a zero tolerance policy in the military for religious proselytizing and harassment. One strike and you're out, not only for those who are guilty of that sort of harassment, but also for those who tolerate or condone."newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/sally_quinn/2009/11/fort_hood_about_religion_but_also_more.html

LetFreedomRing (not verified)

at 09:37 on November 12th, 2009

Please, people wake up! PeaceFrog said: "A third outcome (of gang stalking COINTELPRO) is the retaliation against a part of the hostile community affiliated with the gang stalking which serves as a "proxy" (i.e., mass violence cases). The mass violence cases are the rarest outcome, but even representing a small fraction of a percent of outcomes, are inevitable, and, over time statistically predictable. This "acceptable mortality rate" is a military concept seen in everyday military operations. Its usage in the civilian law enforcement COINTELPRO scheme context is obscene."This does not eliminate the responsibility of the harassed mass shooter (if Hasan was actually the shooter), but DOES imply culpability, IF the harassment was premeditated and organized--as in COINTELPRO. Should not organized harassers be considered ACCESSORIES TO A MURDER SPREE if their target goes over the edge? Surely, if it is COINTELPRO, you would have a situation whereby through surveillance of the target (TI), subsequent tactical decisions would have been made by the stalkers to increase the use of specific protocols that most agitated the TI.WAKE UP! PeaceFrog is not talking about unstructured harassment that stems from prejudice (which is bad enough). Gang stalking is a HIGHLY structured, organized, directed, pre-meditated form of psychological terror. A gang-stalked psycho gunman may be a stick of dynamite, but the organized stalkers light the fuse! If structured and directed group provocation can be proven, those assholes need to land in jail too! GET IT?

LetFreedomRing (not verified)

at 10:43 on November 12th, 2009

Please excuse the double posting but the formatting of my last post didn't hold and turned it into an unintelligible blob. So here goes with HTML tags because this topic is too important to neglect:<BR>Please, people wake up! PeaceFrog said:<BR> "A third outcome (of gang stalking COINTELPRO) is the retaliation against a part of the hostile community affiliated with the gang stalking which serves as a "proxy" (i.e., mass violence cases). The mass violence cases are the rarest outcome, but even representing a small fraction of a percent of outcomes, are inevitable, and, over time statistically predictable. This "acceptable mortality rate" is a military concept seen in everyday military operations. Its usage in the civilian law enforcement COINTELPRO scheme context is obscene."<BR>This does not eliminate the responsibility of the harassed mass shooter (if Hasan was actually the shooter), but DOES imply culpability, IF the harassment was premeditated and organized--as in COINTELPRO. Should not organized harassers be considered ACCESSORIES TO A MURDER SPREE if their target goes over the edge? Surely, if it is COINTELPRO, you would have a situation whereby through surveillance of the target (TI), subsequent tactical decisionswould have been made by the stalkers to increase the use of specific protocols that most agitated the TI.<BR>WAKE UP! PeaceFrog is not talking about unstructured harassment that stems from prejudice (which is bad enough). Gang stalking is a HIGHLYstructured, organized, directed, pre-meditated form of psychological terror. A gang-stalked psycho gunman may be a stick of dynamite, but the organized stalkers light the fuse! If structured and directed group provocation can be proven, those assholes need to land in jail too! GET IT?

StopOrganizedStalking (not verified)

at 07:10 on November 14th, 2009

"LetFreedomRing" wrote: "Gang stalking is a HIGHLY structured, organized, directed, pre-meditated form of psychological terror. A gang-stalked psycho gunman may be a stick of dynamite, but the organized stalkers light the fuse! If structured and directed group provocation can be proven, those assholes need to land in jail too!" -----------------------------------------end quote------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Someone needs to investigate and expose organized group/gang stalking. These people psychologically terrorize others and, for now, are getting away with it.

Anonymously Given (not verified)

at 12:59 on November 16th, 2009

It is annoying that the site managers have put line-feed strippers into the processing scripts at NP, but only for anonymous posters. I have found that it is better to make several short messages out of a longer one, so that the result is not an uber-long/hard-to-read run-on/zero-white-space sort of entry. The site has become anonymous-user unfriendly, to say the least.

stalked@school (not verified)

at 05:59 on November 17th, 2009

Just wanted to let everyone know that the organized stalkers have shown up at my school. It started out with 1 or 2 different people a day. It is now clear they have many more involved. It took them about a month to get volunteers. The gang stalkers are now posted outside my buildings and wait for me after class. They just hold their cell phones to their ears, and react when I come buy, fidgeting, staring at me looking away, staring again. They also cross my path when I walk from the parking lot to class. The same spot every day they will have a young lady walk in front of me with her cell phone. She will turn her head more than 180 degrees to look up the hill I walk down, cell phone to her ear, not talking. Yesterday they had a male walk past me, looking at his cell like he was receiving a text, he stopped 5 feet from me and stared. They are never talking on their phones, just holding them and starring. On campus, the gang stalkers are mostly 17-20 year old females and males. Every class I have there is someone standing outside the doorway of my class with a cell phone. They always pay undue attention to me, by smiling, nodding, or staring. Yesterday for the first time, a faculty member (teacher) was waiting. His eyes lit up as soon as I came out of the door. He smiled and me, nodded and walked back into his classroom. As I walked past, he still had the cell to his ear, still had not said anything, but was watching me in the reflection of the window he was looking out of. When I leave I am subject to people pulling out of side roads like they are going to impact my vehicle, they smile and close their cell phones in plain view. Trucks are releasing their air brakes as I pass on the road, the truckers are usually on their CB's and laugh at me and or gesture wildly as I pass.
There are no bounds for these criminals, and I am positive the only people that could influence this many law abiding civilians in the short time I have been at school are the FBI or State Police. Just another confirmation that this is state sponsored terrorism.

PeaceFrog

at 06:52 on November 17th, 2009

This sounds like classic gang stalking. I believe that you should get a copy of David Lawson's book Cause Stalking. Then I would approach anyone you trust that may be able to hear you out and help. Anyone can read the pamphlet/book and get an idea of what gang stalking is from the perspective of a private investigator who lays it out concisely. I recommend that you approach family and any priest or spiritual advisor known to you or your family. Going to the guidance counselor or other help at school first will lead to your misdiagnosis and medication you probably do not need. Look over my articles, since you seem to grasp that the magnitude of this organized stalking requires government support. You can also post an e-mail that I can contact you at, and, I will try to answer some questions and give you some guidance (use the same posting name stalked@school so I know who I am responding to.

OhReally? (not verified)

at 21:07 on December 9th, 2009

Peace dude says - "This sounds like classic gang stalking." ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Yes, I conclude so far, as the "gang stalking" *stamp,* is apparent.____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Peace dude says - "I believe that you should get a copy of David Lawson's book Cause Stalking. Then I would approach anyone you trust that may be able to hear you out and help. Anyone can read the pamphlet/book and get an idea of what gang stalking is from the perspective of a private investigator who lays it out concisely."___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I say - The Lawsen(?) book, "cause stalking," is classic *disinformation.* They "lay it all out" alright, but you would have to be severely ignorant to "buy" such common disinformation._______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Peace dude says - " I recommend that you approach family and any priest or spiritual advisor known to you or your family."_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________I say - Yeah right, they have most likely been *threatened* and compromised by the " Big Lie" of "National Security" and are eager t have an end to their constant abuse and so-called harassment that are *assaults* under the law.________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Peace dude says - "Going to the guidance counselor or other help at school first will lead to your misdiagnosis and medication you probably do not need."______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________I say - Well, duh? Whoed'a'thought'it?______________________________________________________________________________
Peace dude says - "Look over my articles, since you seem to grasp that the magnitude of this organized stalking requires government support."____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________I say another "Well duh" and ask why the *contradictions* or rather mistakes(?) in your postings? David Lawsen? Really?______________________________________________________________________________ Surely you jest. :)

anonymous post (not verified)

at 10:15 on November 26th, 2009

The following comment can be found in an online Veteran's Today article. I'll let readers reach their own conclusions.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "By TH on 2009-11-14 16:00:38 Maybe this what is happening to me. I am a Muslim and a chartered surveyor in the UK and have been hounded and stalked for the past four years ever since I wrote articles on the internet as a citizen journalist. Some of the ploys used include being startled by strangers suddenly appearing from no where and stumbling into me. This happens upto several times a day even though the pavement may be generally clear.I also have my property and car routinely vandalised irregardless where they are or where I am parked. To date have changed my car tyres several times for each one. I have to get about because of my job.My car is shunted from the rear at least twice a year even if I am parked and consistently having to wait for repairs to be done. Some of the more colourful harassment I can only describe as bizarre head games. For example one of the regular incidences involves a couple having a heated argument in my vicinity. They may be different people involved but the words they use are exactly the same. Another regular event includes a military type Land Rover in camouflage tail gate me on the motorway. I can tell vehicles are not the genuine article, Variations includes a standard unmarked car driven by individuals in camo or military type beret and shirt sleeves. Again they don't look like the genuine articles.Most of these activities vary over time but they largely involve startling, imprinting and sustaining stress on an ongoing basis. Occasionally, I have been physically hurt by caustic substances that have been wiped on door handles and equipment I am using out doors.I am in early middle age and otherwise of good character but have had immense difficulties getting the police to assist, not taken seriously by the authorities and on occasions being told point blank that they are under instruction not to turn me away. When I am with company, the harassment ceases but the stalking is maintained with the stalker endeavouring to make visual contact at a distance often smirking and shaking their heads. When I do point them out to others they snap away.It has come to a point now I don't even bother to make a fuss although I suspect it is this passivity that is sought. When I leave home the same cars or individuals pull out behind me and at the end of the day follows me back home. I work irregular hours. The same deal happens when I go to the supermarket with the stalker waiting outside the shop for when I leave, Restaurants are a particular problem with the stalker on duty attempting to get a table next to mine and if unsuccessful standing outside the establishment. If this is what has happened to Hasan Nidal, it then must have started several years earlier."

Lawson is very wrong on a major point (not verified)

at 21:14 on December 23rd, 2009

The trouble with David Lawson's Cause Stalking book is that although it describes the harassment very well, he says that these are anti-government groups. Well, they're government-sponsored groups. There may be a few that are freelancers, but nothing but government could organize and get the participation that is described in the post above by "stalked@school." We are witnessing the birth of Brownshirts in America.