What we really have to lose - or gain - in Afghanistan

by Susan Marie Kovalinsky | December 10, 2009 at 11:57 am
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U.S. standing in the Islamic world is also at stake. The historic rule of thumb is that winners have influence; losers don't. Winners get to set standards. Their ideas get more attention. Their leaders gain greater authority.
Robin Wright, Washington Post

FOR THE UNITED STATES  IN THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN,   THE STAKES HAVE NEVER BEEN HIGHER....

The Washington Post journalist,  Robin Wright,  holds forth on 3 key aspects of what the US stands to gain or lose in the war in Afghanistan.  

~Key among these,  according to Wright,  is the United State's place in the global community in the 21st century.    A loss in Afghanistan,  argues the journalist,  could spell the demise of the myth of American global power.  

~Secondly,  morality:  The US cannot continue to set moral standards around the globe,  if its own tactics are questionable, and to boot,  are viewed as the strategy of losers.  In Iran, and elsewhere,  our reputation is growing dubious.  

~Additionally,  India,  Pakistan,  Iran:  These are volatile and shaky regions:  Powder kegs, waiting for the proverbial match to be thrown.  Do we want the reputation as the nation who made all this blow up?  Wright doesn't think so:  

The first is America's place in the world in the 21st century. Officials from Moscow to Beijing, from Iran's revolutionaries to Somalia's pirates, will scrutinize this last-ditch U.S. effort -- and weigh their actions, reactions and interactions with the United States on how Obama's effort fares.

Failure by the world's mightiest military power, backed by the largest military alliance, to uproot the Taliban -- a force without an air force, armored corps, long-range artillery, satellite intelligence or powerful foreign backer -- would vividly illustrate the limits of U.S. power. The consequences could dwarf those of the defeat in Vietnam, even if the loss of life was smaller.

The era of a unipolar or uni-power world is effectively over, but a U.S. failure in Afghanistan and Pakistan could mark its formal end, just as it did for the bipolar world when the Soviet Union withdrew from Afghanistan. Indeed, the period from Vietnam to Afghanistan -- with withdrawals under pressure from Hezbollah extremists in Lebanon and warlords in Somalia along the way -- could come to be seen as the period marking the demise of American power.

And not just "gun" power. At its core, American power is also supposed to be about moral power -- using might to confront, contain or prevent fascist, totalitarian or unjust regimes from unacceptable aggression, repression or injustice. American power has been abused. Neither party has clean hands. But few other nations have been willing or able to assume that role.

U.S. standing in the Islamic world is also at stake. The historic rule of thumb is that winners have influence; losers don't. Winners get to set standards. Their ideas get more attention. Their leaders gain greater authority.

And the outcome of the U.S. confrontation with various branches of al-Qaeda and the Taliban is pivotal to the future of the Islamic world. Almost a decade after the Sept. 11 attacks, the Muslim world is at a crossroads. Polls show key Muslim societies are increasingly rejecting extremism -- even if respondents are still not enamored of the United States. Vast numbers of Muslims now recognize that Bin Ladenism can't provide answers to everyday challenges such as education, housing, jobs and health care. There's an air of fatigue about al-Qaeda; it's becoming somewhat passé. The search is on for something better.

U.S. strategy in South Asia is now based not only on defeat of the forces behind the Sept. 11 attacks; it's also designed to help build credible alternatives to extremist ideologies and governance. Winning on this front in Pakistan and Afghanistan is as important -- and potentially harder -- than the military campaign. The winner is likely to have greater sway among the world's 1.3 billion Muslims. And "winner" means not so much the United States as the principles, such as more accountable government, modern education and economic opportunity from legitimate trades.

Finally, U.S. interests in the wider region are also at stake, notably on two fronts.

Obama's strategy will deeply affect India, the world's largest democracy. Long-standing tensions between Pakistan and India have taken the world closer to the brink of nuclear war than any conflict has since World War II -- and still could, since Pakistan has failed to contain extremists responsible for terrorist atrocities in India, including the Mumbai attacks last year. U.S. failure to help nuclear Pakistan expand or shift its military focus from India to the more immediate threat from its internal extremists risks allowing those tensions to deepen.

Just as worrisome are the stakes with Iran, which borders both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Afghanistan has become for Iran what Iraq once was: a surrogate battlefield with the United States. Once Afghanistan's rival, Shiite-dominated Iran has reportedly supplied the same weapons and explosives to Sunni Taliban fighters that it provided Shiite militias in Iraq, on the principle that the enemy of my enemy is my friend -- at least for now.

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Hugh Askew

Nice Pictures, smk! ; )

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Lovely pics HA:)

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Susan Marie Kovalinsky

uh huuuuuhhhhhhhhhh.......................... ; )

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Hugh Askew

They kinda get that trampish look, been around a few times ; )

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

The Washington Post article is a detailed analysis of what is at stake in this region.  None of thes countries can be looked at in isolation.  Readers may recall what a General in charge of ISAF intelligence said about two months ago.  He said that Iran was preparing fighters to move across the border from Pakistan into Afghanistan. 

NATO has never prepared for this type of mission and thus the reluctance by many member nations to actually engage in combat.  NATO for decades prepared to fight the cold war along the iron curtain.  This was coordinated warfare using armoured, infantry and artillery at formation level.  A good portion of this warfare was based on dynamic defence. 

While NATO would fight minor local offensive battles the whole strategy was to defend against Soviet aggression.  Now the mindset has to change to deal with an insurgency.  US Forces have gained some experience in Iraq.

The training cycle for a Battle Group is almost a year prior to deployment.


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Hugh Askew

Think maybe they are too set in their ways to change, unless of course, they absolutely have to?

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Susan Marie Kovalinsky

You sound as though you are ready to deploy,  Pocci.  

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Karl Gotthardt - albertacowpoke

Been there done that, wrote the book and got the t-shirt:)

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a211423

smk

Thanks for the good article that capsulizes our position in Afghanistan.

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snuffysmith

Quotations for the Day:


“We have been fighting in Afghanistan already for six years … . If the approach is not changed, we will continue to fight for another twenty [to] thirty years … Our military should be told that they are learning badly from this war.”

--Mikhail Gorbachev (1986),

cited in Constantine Pleshakov, There is No Freedom Without Bread! 1989 and the Civil War that Brought Down Communism (New York: Farrar, Strauss and Giroux , 2009), p. 146; image from

“It is necessary to establish a strategic target. Too long ago we spoke about the fact that it is necessary to close off the borders of Afghanistan with Pakistan and Iran. Experience has shown that we were unable to do this in view of the difficult terrain and the existence of hundreds of passes in the mountains. Today it is necessary to make clear that the only viable strategic assignment is the one that is directed toward bringing the war to an end.”

--Andrei Gromyko,

Soviet Foreign Minister, ibid, pp. 146-147; image (Gromyko left) from

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snuffysmith

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