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When Perception Becomes The Reality: Tim Geithner Edition
True or false: Tim Geithner is a former Goldman Sachs associate. Answer: False. The larger issue is that after repeated characterizations in print and broadcast media, the likely hood is that a certain percentage of people would think it is true.( Look no further than the fact that 20% of respondents to a recent poll "believe" President Obama is a Muslim.) But, let's get back to Treasury Secretary Geithner.
Despite numerous newspaper corrections, and Mr. Geithner's many objections to news interviewers falsely characterizing him as a former Wall Street banker and Goldman associate, if you asked people on the street if Geithner was a Goldman associate or Wall St. banker you'd most likely get a resounding yes. Now it is certainly true that Mr. Geithner served as the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It is also true that Geithner worked under his mentor Robert Rubin (a Goldman guy), during his stint with the Clinton administration. But the truth of the matter is that Tim Geithner is neither a Goldman associate or former Wall St. investment banker.
Does he have relationships with individuals from Goldman and the Wall Street investment community? As a former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of NY, and his previous roles in government and the World Bank, how could it be possible otherwise?
As pointed out in today's NY Times in a story by Jackie Calmes, Treasury Secretary Geithner "Struggles to Escape a Past He Never Had." Calmes says it is probably a good thing that President Obama has chosen Geithner to be the point man on opposing the extension of the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. As Geithner points out, the 10 year cost of extending the tax cuts for that 2% will amount to a loss of approximately 700 Billion dollars to the government. Furthermore, Geithner claims "it is not the government's role to borrow money from future generations to pay for tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans.
There has been a lot of rhetoric coming from opponents of letting the tax cuts expire. At the same time the opposition argues that the current administration is spending our children and grandchildrens future by so much deficit spending. Keep in mind that the tax cuts in question, along with the prescription drug program for seniors (a good thing), were paid for by, you guessed it, deficit spending. I guess at the end of the day, it's not a matter of how we spend money we "don't have", it's more a matter of who is in charge of spending it. Perception and reality, it all depends on whom you ask.
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Michael Small
Vancouver, Canada


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anymoose (not verified)at 11:32 on August 20th, 2010
like every left-wing democrat saying over and over again how bush jr. stole the 2000 election. ask and you might find enough people who don't understand the electoral system who firmly believe that propaganda shouted from the left-wing democrats often enough to become a common perception.
at 12:22 on August 20th, 2010
Unless you can explain what you are saying in English, your comment has nothing relevant to say regarding this story. Is Tim Geithner a former associate of Goldman Sachs? Yes or no. It's really a very simple question.
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Dwightwannabe (not verified)at 12:48 on August 20th, 2010
No. Geitner was a tax cheat, but he never worked at Goldman Sachs. Bill Dudley, president of the Fed did. Mark Patterson, Geitner's chief of staff did. Diana Farrell, deputy director of the National Economic Council did. Gary Gensler, chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission did. Philip Murphy, Obama ambassador appointment to Germany did. White House advisor Emil Michael did. But not Geitner. Nope.
at 13:05 on August 20th, 2010
Dwightwannabe (what do you wannabe?) What is this guilt by association? At least you got around to the question at hand. Very good!
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Noba D (not verified)at 12:19 on August 20th, 2010
it is not left wing propeganda that made the votes from Florida disapear, nor in the following election was it left wing propeganda that made the ballots the soldiers cast get lost until the election was called. And did the votes from Cleveland ever show up? The lack of understanding about the electoral system is clear, as is the propensity to smear other parties. Like calling the democrats left wing. I suppose they all wear furry hats with ear flaps and red stars as well?
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Dwightwannabe (not verified)at 12:34 on August 20th, 2010
Exactly, Anymoose. What percentage of people tie the economy to the president when the president does ZERO budgeting and has ZERO ability to write a check on behalf of the USA. But still folks refuse to tie the swings in the economy to the Speaker of the House who writes the initial budget. ~ I've never heard the Goldman thing before and I listen to a lot of "right wing" radio. What I remember is the issue where Geitner had never held a "real" private sector job. I remember Geitner's team firing back saying that he worked food service as a teen. I WISH Geitner had held a Goldman job at some point.
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anymoose (not verified)at 19:20 on August 20th, 2010
dwightwannabei don't listen to any talk radio or t.v. news. i used to love watching lou dobbs. he was good for a laugh and often had a good rant on whatever issue was afloat at the time. people labelled him right-wing or republican but he called himself an independent. what nanute writes is one side of and all part of the media perception game and whos pushing the dialogue. when left-wing democrats [as opposed to right-wing democrats something an earlier poster was ignorant of ] use smear tactics, or when republicans use smear tactic or bend the "truth" to their favor they are speaking to a very limited audience, usually their dogma clone partisans who could care less about facts and prefer the propaganda. it fits the world view delirium they hold and expect everyone else to buy into. geitner was lumped into the rest of the gang because he was a hand holder and directly connected to the others. just like the obama- ayers thing. it suits a limited number of people to hear such stuff and the connection, however tenuous, is enough to create a buzz. like bushs "illegal war" rhetoric is still touted by the left-wing democrats. they don't understand the system and don't want to because then they would have to accept democrat complicity in all matters of government. whether they hold the presidency or not democrats from the house and senate vote on all matters. and since they have held the majority for about the last ten years that would really hurt their self-righteous opinion as moral authority in u.s.. lol. i just call it media spite as it is played by both left and right ad nauseam. i just like to point out the hypocrisy when the left get up on their soapbox and cry victim.
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Dwightwannabe (not verified)at 12:41 on August 20th, 2010
Nice try, Noba. The New York Times hand-counted the votes and still couldn't bend reality. Gore lost. Gore lost. Gore lost. The war in Iraq was not lost. It was won. Twice. You still saying Karl Rove leaked Valarie Plame, too? Maybe some nefarious connection between Dick Cheyney and Halliburton that the Left still hasn't been able to prove in 11 years? Oh! Oh! What about the old "Blood for ooooooooil" bit. Where's the oil? We paid the blood, where's the oil, Noba? C'mon. Don't let anything like facts slow you down.
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Dwightwannabe (not verified)at 12:59 on August 20th, 2010
Dear Left: The Laffer Curve. Google it. Read it. Learn it. Love it. Live it. Media Matters told you the Laffer curve has been discredited. It never has. The only argument is where the sweet spot really is. Even crazy Progressive Keynesian economists agree the Laffer curve makes sense, even if they say the sweet spot is 72% Laffer estimated the sweet spot at 28%. CBO economists have put it at approximately 32%. There is a point were YOU WILL KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE with your socialist greed. Geese can fly, and they will. Raise taxes on the job makers in a bad economy. Go ahead. Morons. It worked so well for Jimmy Carter. Do it.
at 12:59 on August 20th, 2010
You folks are doing a fine job of proving my point. Facts don't matter, perception is reality.
at 14:13 on August 20th, 2010
Tim Geithner is actually on the job and working diligently, as is Robert Gates. For that, they get my respect.
at 14:26 on August 20th, 2010
Finally. A comment that deserves recognition.