NP Rank:
Who are the Fake TI's, what do they want and what can we do?
Preface: There is an interesting book called 'How to detect infiltrators' by, Scholl. Accepting if you know an infiltrator is the first step. During all of my time as a Target, I have only met a few real Targets online. The point of the following article is to get to know the fake TI without risk, and delineate their differences, what they want and what we can do despite their insertion into our cause.
*
Yes, there are costs of credibility to the neo-Cointelpro and Gangstalking community because of the coordinated efforts of our defense department and the special interest groups that infiltrate our cause. There are any number of us, maybe every TI, who has let at least one of these Infiltrators in to our personal lives only to have them cause many extra problems for us, it's a good idea to avoid fakers, everyone knows it. Sometimes you just can't, maybe they've insinuated themselves, or run, your favorite sites, so what do you do then? The only option we have is to work to make this an important issue to our elected officials and to make it transparent and a civil liberties issue, rather than a debatable conspiracy theory. It is impossible to avoid all Fakers, but with diligence we can locate real TI's and rally.
Our Agent Infiltrators and Provocateurs love the internet, especially, because they can gain fast credibility among other TI's and they try to control real TI's and the direction of our cause, they can also distort our cause by saying outlandish and well... stupid things... in order to discredit us on the World-Wide web. For example, right now, they have us real TI's pretty paranoid about eachother and the world, and un-unified as a cause. That's a powerless position. Do you need to out them? Probably not, you can take their real names, for documentation and that might help at some point. Stay above the fray and keep working on the issues of the cause in effective ways. This makes the Faker impotent in his/her ploy and gives you and the cause -hope.
TI's have a tuned BS meter, generally. It comes with the territory of having a war waged on us. And that's the good news! Most of us can ferret out the fakers. Finding out who the Fakers are and their number, on a site, can be a barometer, to tell us how much publicity they expect a real TI can get from publishing there. For example, Now Public must be considered very high-value because there's a high percentage of believable and/or effective Fakers here. Finally, just by judging their agenda(to provoke, entrap, distract, infiltrate) we can find the most effective platforms to speak out on being a TI and seek to enlighten, rally and inspire transparency and human rights, in law, and elsewhere.
G-men Fakers-What they are doing is espionage in Americas home office. Their goal is they want control over the 'targeted' organizations and people and intelligence on everything. To those that organize intelligence agents, this is a chess-game, there goal isn't just to clean up the streets, the goal is to control them. It's the way mass-market police work is done nowadays.
Squirrels: "squirrels" are agents meant to gather up the nuts that are rolling around the web, 'squirrels' go on sites looking for people that either confess to crimes or show preincident-indicators and then the squirrels forward the information of those people to the proper authorities, some of them work directly for the government, some do not.
Some of these people have biases and agendas, some of them do not. It is important that TI's know this upfront. For years, I experimented on the harassment I am enduring, I did this while the web was new to the public, and I can tell you a written confession is more compelling than a verbal one, so don't experiement or do anything dumb on the web. There is no such thing as privacy anymore. And coming from someone that set the 'lines of communication' on fire I can tell you that line goes from you, to your local fusion center, all the way to an intelligence agency!
There are exceptions, but generally, these Fakes are there for a pretty good reason. The Squirrels that are Fake TI's, are part of this same group, however, they have one big difference, they view anyone who is talking about Neo-cointelpro and gangstalking as 'anti-Government', without distinction. They have all of your information at their fingertips, whenever you are on line. Be Careful.
These fake TI's -(G-men and special interest group agents) entrap, pawn and list people who are exercising their first and fouth amendment rights of free thought and speech. Once these agencies, either SIG or G-men, have you they will look to see if you have any preincident indicators, mental health and criminal histories or violent tendencies. They can Entrap you into appearing as if you have 'preincident indicators'.
If you don't realize that you are a political enemy to someone else, then you are not paying attention. Many TI's are not threats to society or the government, they just got sabotaged by an SIG or G-man. And America has a long history of using it's own citizens for the benefit of law enforcement and the military, this puts the burden of proof on our shoulders. It is further incentive to avoid Fakers, and find real TI's to coordinate with. Although it may be entertaining and interesting to try to make a Faker do work that would really help the cause-good luck with that one.
Many of our personal rights have been eroded. Cointelpro flourished at a time when it was illegal. Now that Cointelpro is LEGALIZED it is rampant! It is what we are experiencing, call it what you want, it doesn't matter what you call it because the remedy is the same- Restoring our Civil Liberties. That's what we are asking for from our elected officials, that's what we want other Americans to see. We want Americans to see the whole truth of what occurs without civil liberties.
We have in the past and we can again, use this dark night of the soul to create mass change that will improve civil liberties and human rights in general. We can unify. And that is what can lead everyone to better place, a place of healthy transparency where everyones civil liberties and where our human rights can be respected.
2 quotes:
The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.


Most RecentMost Recommended Comments (27)
at 13:28 on January 6th, 2012
"PeacefulTrends" looks and sounds very much like the phony to me -- a lame paid disinformation agent who specializes in double agent psyops. Anyone who refers to extrajudicially persecuted Americans by using the self-loathing descriptor "targeted individual" -- and refers to the battle for human rights and freedom from government-sponsored electromagnetic torture and community vigilantism as "our cause" -- is telegraphing his sorry "tradecraft."
He's also a rabid Jew-baiter who engages in dog whistling when he blames the ADL for "gangstalking" when Jews are among the prime targets of neo-fascist ideologues and hate-mongers granted safe harbor among the agencies, commands, corporations and secret societies that fuel the nationwide extrajudicial Gestapo network.
For the real deal, see this veteran journalist's articles at http://NowPublic.com/scrivener
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwave-weapon
http://nowpublic.com/world/thugocracy-u-s-fed-police-vigilantes-persecute-citizen-targets
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-govt-runs-gang-stalking-vigilantism-says-ex-fbi-official
- Sign In or Join to post comments
Equal opportunity ethnic stalking (not verified)at 20:26 on January 6th, 2012
Nope, wrong, buddy. Jews are HEAVILY involved in this Torture Network. These tactics are Stalinist as imported from the USSR by the hordes of Stalin-loving immigrants under Jackson-Vanik to turn the USA into the USSA. Yes, Christians skinheads are also involved (the dupes).
at 20:44 on January 6th, 2012
Just like Hitler -- turn it around and blame the Jews. The kindest thing I can say about you is that perhaps you are one of those pseudo-Christian dupes.
- Sign In or Join to post comments
Equal Opportunity Stalking in Amerika (not verified)at 17:42 on January 7th, 2012
You wanna make the stalking and torture "stop"? Forget about the FBI and contact the ADL.
at 10:26 on February 8th, 2012
Contacting the ADL for help to extricate a TI from cointelpro will not help most Targets, may even wrongly harm them. The ADL has a history of spying on and listing people as enemies, for no good reason. For example, in Jim Redden book 'The ADL SPY SCANDAL'. The ADL was sued because one of their 'Agents' and a intelligence agent were swapping information. It doesn't mean the 'information' was correct on either side, just that they were doing this. Many thousands of people were listed by the ADL. Like me some of these listed people were not anti-Semitic and not involved in any racist or anti-Semitic organization. One of the revealing facts of this case is that the San Francisco D.A.'s office was in fact on the trail of a vast "ADL spy network". Journalists learned the organization had agents spying on people in other American cities too. The investigation revealed that the two men (implicated) were sharing information with foreign intelligence agencies, including to Mossad. This network would give and sell information that got people killed, for their political ideas and work- that's not fair play. It is down right dangerous for anyone to involve themselves with the ADL, esp since the ADL is likely participating in cointelpro- at nearly every level.
at 10:50 on February 8th, 2012
Almost anyone can be pawned into acting as a gangstalker, there are many groups that are 'heavily-into it'. I think it is only truthful and ethical to not implicate an ENTIRE RACE in gangstalking because of that. It is really important to understand that there are extremists in every cultural group, just because the ADL seems to be involving itself in gangstalking, doesn't validate the above commentors statement that "Jewish people are heavily into it". The ADL is maybe the most powerful private SIG in the world. And we cannot blame a race or section of society trying to use the govt to further its agenda. Many groups have used Cointelpro to further their agendas. We need our government to set the limits here. As Targets, Our only hope is a complete Congressional audit of the Program (Cointelpro) and an outlawing of the tactics.
That way no SIG can insinuate itself in the Military/Govt and direct Cointelpro activities. And when the dirty cointelpro tactics and collaborations are no longer legal or permitted and are reformed (by the govt) then Americas civil liberties will be restored for everyone.
What is America, without our Civil Liberties?
What most people forget is that there is a dark side to the Patriot Act and the other erosions to our civil liberties. Mainstream America doesn't hear about the casualties of it. InnocentTargeted Individuals are the main casualties, and that is one of the reasons why so many resources are directed at discrediting and quieting us.
If you are a real TI then our only option is to write our elected officials to ask for a congressional audit of this Program.
at 17:41 on January 7th, 2012
Scrivner, Anyone who would confuse my clumsy attempts at unpackaging these highly sophisticated systems in cointelpro as psyops, well I don't know what to say except that's preposterous, in fact that's one of the best laughs I had all day. Also, I need to let you know I am 37 year old woman that is a real Survivor (Target) of Cointelpro, I'm not sure which is more insulting to be woman that you infer is a man or to be real Survivor that has been wrongly placed on a list for Cointelpro and have you say that I'm a phony. Hurt
at 13:55 on January 11th, 2012
Scrivener's an idiot at best, more likely one of those you're writing about.
Frankly you only gain credibility if he's attacking you.
at 11:06 on January 16th, 2012
at 14:24 on January 6th, 2012
Another greatly insightful article!
Scrivener:
The ADL/JDL and other Domestic Terrorist Jewish Organizations are involved. I have communicated with a number of credible targets from across the country whose entire families were targeted by organized crime, police and Rabidly Anti-Gentile Jewish Extremist groups, at the direction of Extremist Jewish Groups. This cancerous form of Criminal Zionism adheres to the Talmudic instruction of destroying the Amalek in every generation. These groups are also genocidal and count 10,000 non-Jewish lives as worth less than one Jew-this is "Rabbi" Kahane (good thing the creep is deceased).
at 16:49 on January 6th, 2012
Suggestion:
This story m ay attract more hits with a different title. An idea:
Gang Stalking: Infiltration and Pernicious techniques from the Intelligence Community and Others
at 17:47 on January 7th, 2012
Hi Peacefrog, You def have a way with words! Thank for the idea.
at 13:53 on January 11th, 2012
At the same time, these fake TI's also bring a lot of publicity to our cause. And believe me, all publicity is good publicity. Why use so many resources to smear us if we are fake? We can unify and turn their highly-public smearing of us into the real story. And that is what can lead everyone to better place, a place of truth where everyones civil liberties can be respected.------------------------------------------I would disagree with that, many have been following this "all we gotta do is get the word out" philosophy, what has been the result?
http://a.abcnews.com/Health/MindMoodNews/comments?type=story&id=6443988#.Tw4IsaVPvp8
and of course
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/fashion/13psych.html?pagewanted=all
The worst of it is you can't even say they are wrong, that is unless you want to ignore the other group of fake TI's.
at 11:18 on January 16th, 2012
BV, The real story here is why are so many media resources aimed at us. The answer is that we Targets that talk about neo-cointelpro and gangstalking are listed as 'anti government' Maybe because the government is afraid of TI's unifying and calling into account any and all government participation. If our claims were totally unjustified, perhaps they would not be so worried about our ideas.
at 15:03 on January 16th, 2012
I can't say I share that take on it. My view is that the media does not look into it, because when they do, they see:
Self claimed TI's that are obviously delusional
More rational people who have compelling stories but still lack evidence or documentation.
Authorities who they cannot accuse of this without solid grounds.
So all they can verify and put into print is that there are crazy people making these claims. Put yourself in the shoes of professional journalists for a moment. That can't write stuff based on hunches, beliefs, or hearsay. They would surely like to run stories of outrageous government offenses, I don't think there is any fear on their part- but they aren't going to do it without evidence.
We have NONE.
- Sign In or Join to post comments
anon-comment (not verified)at 21:45 on January 16th, 2012
re: "They would surely like to run stories of outrageous government offenses, I don't think there is any fear on their part- but they aren't going to do it without evidence."
LOL. Those reporters are surely scared shitless of Lockheed. You are obviously delusional.
at 05:27 on January 17th, 2012
what does lockheed have to do with it? isn't the claim that it's the government?
whoever it is does not matter, there are plenty of journalists willing to stick their necks out for a good story if it can be reliably substantiated, so far this story can not be.
BTW why don't you cheesy little f u c k e r s posting with these chicken s h i t "anonagutlesspunk" pseudonyms at least assume a unique identity so you and your views can be identified?
You're acting like childish trolls with your hit and run comments, it's dishonorable and deems you a bunch of cowards.
- Sign In or Join to post comments
penman (not verified)at 15:07 on January 16th, 2012
The real story here is that BV is an absolutely absurd fake TI, who pisses on real TI's and tells us that it's raining. Ditto for "Peacefultrends".
BV has "plausible deniablity" written all over his face, with his mission statement: "golly gee, look at all these fake TI's - they're all mentally ill".
We never forget who BV, and peaceful trends are working for.
BTW: I am NOT 'anti-government'. They're liars.
at 05:13 on January 17th, 2012
ad hominem is the pathetic tactic employed by those who cannot credibly refute your talking points.
I don't know who you are nor do I really care if some cheap shot ankle biter posting anonymously believes I am a "real" TI or not. I'm not one of you morons who needs the acceptance of his new found "TI friends" online to get through his day. Since you are in all likelyhood one of those vanity obsessed nutters, let me just say "go screw yourself".
As for the author of this article, I don't think most people are petty enough to declare they know who she is, I tend to stick to what I can verify myself and that's judge what she's doing. So far that appears to be well intentioned activism albeit with regurgitating some of the typical misconceptions. As she probably found it on the site of an idiot like you I'm not going to hold her fully accountable for that.
- Sign In or Join to post comments
penman (not verified)at 08:20 on January 17th, 2012
Batvette, consistently regurgitating the pathetic tactics of golden showers.
at 05:33 on January 17th, 2012
(yawn!) *more attacks*
I find it so interesting when people with no credibility and no reasoning will mount unfounded accusations at my credibility and the quality of my content. The real story is that the Federal government appears to be putting a lot of money out to attempt to smear and silence me. This is made even more dramatic by the economic dire straights of the country. Why do they try so hard to silence, one little Targeted, housewife from Sacramento, hmmm?
at 06:35 on January 17th, 2012
Why do they try so hard to silence, one little Targeted, housewife from Sacramento, hmmm?
You are asking the wrong question. You, and every other target, are irrelevant per se to the government. There is a Program in which you and every other target is useful as a victim to the government. You are just as useful as the gang stalkers who are also playing a role for the government, whether they are in on it as snitches or not. Personalizing the question as them vs you is as ineffective as a soldier asking why he has to fight, or an insurgent asking why the USG is persecuting them. You are part of a Program, a small piece in a large puzzle. The game requires people to play certain roles. These people are as fungible as coins, who you are per se is totally irrelevant.
at 12:33 on March 5th, 2012
everybody is worthwhile, one small piece CAN change everything.
- Sign In or Join to post comments
penman (not verified)at 09:54 on January 17th, 2012
And Peacefultrends has no more credibility than the people she says lack credibility.
And why all the unfounded attacks on people's credibility in the first place? Is it because credibility is one of the very first things that the program seeks to destroy in a target?
So having credibility, or the apparent lack of credibility is meaningless to any program "participant".
at 13:50 on February 9th, 2012
In light of the post on me above this which was nothing other than an attempt to destroy my credibility, does this post reek with hypocrisy or just stupidity?
- Sign In or Join to post comments
anonymous comment (not verified)at 05:43 on January 20th, 2012
penman said: "Is it because credibility is one of the very first things that the program seeks to destroy in a target?"---------Yes. And they're very good at it.
- Sign In or Join to post comments
nick waitches (not verified)at 17:46 on March 1st, 2012
Thats exactly what they did to me, terorrist cops every crime on the T>I list