WHO IS GETTING THOUSANDS OF GANG STALKING REPORTS A MONTH?

by PeaceFrog | August 17, 2009 at 01:36 pm
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      On or about October 29, 2008 I called the National Center for Victims of Crime’s (NCVC) telephone help-line at 800-394-2255 and spoke to a victim advocate employee. I asked her if she was aware of gang stalking and if she offered any help. During that conversation she told me she was aware of gang stalking, but, that it was not a crime that NCVC provided any referral or help for. She also acknowledged that a large number of calls were regularly coming through the hot-line regarding gang stalking from all around the United States. Upon being asked to estimate the number of gang stalking calls she received, she said ten (10) percent of the average call volume during her shift. She also admitted that NCVC kept “tallies” on the different types of complaints it received over the hotline from victims. Shortly thereafter I called back and spoke with another hotline advocate and she also estimated that 10 (ten percent) of the calls she received were gang stalking complaints. She admitted this meant thousands of calls per month!



     Shortly thereafter, I called a third hotline advocate and asked her whether she could send me information regarding gang stalking complaints received by NCVC including statistics and/or tally numbers. She informed me I would have to speak to her supervisor who she identified as Colleen. I asked when Colleen would be available to speak and she told me the next day.


     On or about October 29, I called NCVC several times and finally got through to Colleen. I had a conversation with her and she acknowledged that she was familiar with the gang stalking calls being regularly received by NCVC. When I asked her to put something in writing regarding the gang stalking complaints being regularly received by NCVC, preferably with statistics, and send it to me, she told me she would not “memorialize” it in such a manner. I then asked for her supervisor’s  name and contact information. She then took my name and contact information, including my e-mail address. She first refused to tell me her supervisor’s name. After I complained that she had taken my name and contact information she relented and told me his name was “Kevin”. I found this type of secrecy in a non-governmental organization peculiar.


     Later that same day, on October 30, 2008, I spoke with Kevin via a phone call I received from him. He identified himself as the Director of Victim’s Services at NCVC. He acknowledged that organized gang stalking complaints were regularly coming in to the hotline, and, further stated that no help or referral was being given. He said he had no organization to refer these complaints to for help, and, the role of NCVC was largely that of a referral service to government and private victim support organizations. He told me he would put together some information related to the gang stalking problem, and, try to include statistics. We agreed that said letter would be e-mailed by NCVC to my e-mail address on NCVC’s letterhead. He said that he would first have to clear the transmission of this information with the United States Department of Justice “DOJ” because there was a clause in NCVC’s federal funding contract with DOJ that made all of NCVC’s internal information and records subject to DOJ control. When I clarified that this meant that DOJ had a property right to the information he agreed this was accurate. He said, however, that he did not foresee this being a problem and expected I would receive the information on gang stalking. The conversation was wholly amiable in tone from start to finish.


     The next day, on or about October 31, 2008, I received an e-mail from The Executive Director of NCVC Mary Lou Leary denying my request. I later learned that Ms. Leary was a former U.S. Attorney and Assistant Attorney General for the United States Department of Justice.



     On August 17, 2009 I called the NCVC's Stalking Forum and told them I was having a problem with gang stalking in New York City. The telephone Victim's Advocate was kind enough to respond that her name was Paula. She was very knowledgeable about gang stalking, which she also referred to as group stalking. She admitted that the management of the NCVC were aware of gang stalking. When pressed for an anecdotal ballpark figure about the percentage of calls related to gang stalking she reflexively became very vague. She said in an Orwellian fashion that thousands of calls might be coming in related to this to dozens of victim's advocates in her organization. Ironically, this sounded more like an explanation of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle than a straight answer.


     Mary Lou Leary has returned to the DOJ as a Deputy Attorney General in the Office of Justice Programs as of June, 2009. THIS IS THE DOJ OFFICE THAT PUBLISHED "STALKING VICTIMIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES". How can anyone believe that their is any independent victims groups when they are all dependent on federal funds with draconian conditions, such as the government controlling their internal records and external communications? Is it not clear that the government controls these groups by placing their own shills in charge to make sure that they are constructively governmental agencies? How can someone go from a high supervisory position in DOJ, to a public sector victims rights group, and back to being in a high position in DOJ, without making the lack of independence of the public organization palpable? Why aren't groups who receive the bulk of their finances from government just designated as government agencies and subjected to FOIA requests for their records?  




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Anonymously Given

For some reason the DOJ feels compelled to squash publication of alleged crime statistics?


Wow.

In any case, do we really know that any contact with the DOJ was made at all?  It might not be too far fetched to imagine a scenario wherein a private  entity with government funding would not want to "rock the boat".

Good sleuthing.  You may have uncovered another smoking gun. Great job!



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PeaceFrog

     I am sorry that you are functionally illiterate. If you read the article with any care you would 

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PeaceFrog

     If you read the article with any care you would have picked up that DOJ squashed an attempt I made to get NCVC's records pursuant to a funding clause in NCVC's federal funding contract. Are you a victim of the public education system in this country? Sorry.

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PeaceFrog

     Why would anyone want to "rock the boat"? Its only thousands of people complaining about civil death suffering health problems, heart attacks, ruined careers, suicides. "Why rock the boat"-a very Hitlerian sentiment.

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tarina1984

Shortly thereafter, I called a third hotline advocate and asked her whether she could send me information regarding gang stalking complaints received by NCVC including statistics and/or tally numbers. She links of london informed me I would have to speak to her supervisor who she identified as Colleen. I asked when Colleen would be available to speak and she told me the next day.

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Donalds

After learning about 'gang stalking' just recently, I posted my latest 'Letter to America' on PeaceFrog's  http://www.nowpublic.com/world/doj-knows-about-gang-stalking. If the good people out there would do something in their own communities to provide resources to ALL targets of stalking crimes, maybe we can have our lives back. Law enforcement, Journalists, Teachers and Celebrities, we need your help to get the word out. To increase stalking legislation, resources and assistance to victims of stalking. Please do whatever you can to help change the laws and bring justice to these hateful people. This includes the Paparazzi who have been invading the privacy of celebrity lives also. The 'best evidence' is the document itself, e.g. photographs and videos. If it was against the law for them to stalk them, then the law can hold the tabloids accountable for publishing the photos. If there was no longer a market, it would stop. I ask all the people of the good of the collective whole to study this. The internet is exploding on stories of gang stalking. If all of you did something, anything, just one thing we can stop this hateful behavior. These laws also need to be changed to help children who are being targeted for gang recruitment. We all feel gang members have been terrorizing communities for decades. We need to stop the recruitment. And hold recruiters/stalkers accountable. As for bullying is the school place, let's get tougher on punishment for this behavior. It's time the world re-learns how to be nice again. We have to all come together in our communities and shut down this hateful mentality of bullying and stalking.

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Donalds

BBC news report today from England ~ Woman dies of Gang Torment after 10yrs of abuse. Community officials ignored her complaints. ~ In my case, when the local officials ignored me for 10 months and I found one good man at the CA POST commission, he had the authority to call the federal investigators and the National Guard. Targets of organized gang stalking need awareness and resources in our local communities.

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Donalds

Jodi's Law ~ Went into effect July 1, '09. She was Stalked, Kidnapped, Raped and Murdered. Stalking is a Predatory Crime. It is the root of all crimes. Stalking Legislation needs to be changed to increase penalties for predators worldwide. This includes Gang Recruitment, Human Trafficking, Domestic and Group/Gang Stalking, Sexual Predators and on and on it goes. Let's stop them Before they Strike. Please join Victory to Survivors of Stalking Support Group and join the discussion.   http://v2vtweets.ning.com

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Donalds

See below.

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Donalds

I spoke with the DOJ OVC this morning. She told me they are in the planning stage of the new fiscal year and stalking is one issue they are looking to introduce inititives. She is going to research group stalking and plans to address this issue. I told her I think Stalking services and resources need to include ALL stalking victims. Domestic, organized or gang recruitment. And training for the local law enforcement. She thanked me and assured me she would take this seriously. In the meantime, I am going to continue to write local representatives to help change stalking laws. I urge everyone to write their representatives. Together, we can do this!

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Sputnic

So what do these "victims" have in common ?

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a211423

http://www.multistalkervictims.org/osatv2.pdf

The above link is an in depth description of gang stalking and its methodology.

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PeaceFrog

     The above link a211423 is a good primer for organized stalking victims. However, like Lawson's book it fails to state the technical surveillance measures required to perform organized stalking (these are addressed in the DOJ Stalking Report): GPS, audio/video surveillance, bumper beepers, use of direct connect/local broadband, etc., are integral to gang stalking.

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Sputnic

Thanks, but  surely the victims must have something in common, in order to motivate this. are they enemys of the state?

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PeaceFrog

     No. These are not enemies of the state. What they all have in common is that they are being used as bait in an elaborate FBI COINTELPRO similar to those witch hunts seen in the Red Scare. Most of them are too tied up in their individual stories to see the bigger picture. Also, most of them (along with the public at large) are unaware of the FBI and coordinating agencies acting as political police. This is something they do not teach you in school.

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Donalds

Public awarness, increased stalking legislation. Training, resources and assistance in our local communities. Never give up. Never give in. For the good of the collective whole.

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anon poster

I phoned the NCVC in early August, I believe, to inquire about their services and knowledge about organized/gang/group stalking.  The person with whom I spoke acknowledged that they have heard about "group stalking", but was not forthcoming with any additional information.   She offered to provide local counseling providers. When I politely asked her what is done with the data that they collect, she ignored my question and said that she was sorry that I didn't feel that they could help me.  When I again asked her about their data and to whom they would report any data about group stalking, she hung up on me.  Group stalking is an abomination.   Thank you for your continued efforts and articles.  

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PeaceFrog

     Thank you for taking the time to post a comment and share your experience.

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a211423

Thank you for reporting your experience.  Local counseling providers?  Who is this suppose to be? The fact that she hung up on you is emblematic of the government's non-responsive stance and general apathy.  I consider myself to be a fairly informed person, but I had never heard, read, or  seen anything about gang stalking until two months ago.  I knew what had been happening to me for the past nine years, but I had no idea of the terrorists policies and the entrenchment of government agencies and the systematic methodology available for use by anyone.  PeaceFrog is correct in his analogy to McCarthyism that practiced indiscriminate, often unfounded, accusations, sensationalism and inquisitorial investigative methods like the suppression and false interpretations of information. 

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anon poster

Poorly worded on my part...  The NCVC puts people in touch with local counseling and mental health services.  This is what they're willing and able to do to help victims of group stalking. It's outrageous that these squads of goons and thugs continue to thrive. 

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a211423

Mental health services:  that is classic.  Stalkers like to characterize their victims as mentally ill or conspiracy addicts.  Offering advice to victims should include legal services for the prosecution of perpetrators.  I am not denying that recovery from years of being gang stalked does not take its toll on victims, and they do need help working through the trauma the same way any victim of PTSD would.  First, agencies or therapists who provide these kinds of services have to admit crimes have been commited, and how many would be willing do that and risk becoming targets themselves or at minimum ostracized themselves for not being in the "program."  Not many, if any that I have heard of. 

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anon poster

January, 2009 DOJ Report "Stalking Victimization in the United States" www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/svus.pdf The report was revised in early August.  Does anyone have a copy of the January report?  

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anon poster

January, 2009 DOJ Report "Stalking Victimization in the United States" www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/svus.pdf The report was revised in early August.  Does anyone have a copy of the January report?  

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Notlaughingtoomuch

I am a victim of being gang stalked for almost 11 years now and had a stroke and a heart attack from it due to heart condition. I am a Christian and belief in prayer but evil happens if good man do nothing. In 1998 my ex-husband tried to harm me and I was told he had a lot of power and they would break every law on me. I was naive and thought this is the USA and this cannot happen here ,wrong. My gang stalking was instigated by a FBI couple. I was attacked and violated 24x7. I lost everything. Constant false allegation. I had not even a traffic ticket. Goons placed next door to me in my apartment. Home invasions all the time, employers threatened and told immediately after I had heart surgy to make me angry, harass me and commit psycho terror. I would have never believed this could happen in our great country. It is like the brown shirts have taken over our country. And it is happening to many people. Local law enforcement refuses to take police reports stating instead you know too much. I was told I would have nothing left but to commit suicide. I was hit from behind on purpose in my car on several occasions and once ahd a concussion too. The stop a 100 ft behind yuo and than hit the gas pedal all the way, in my case it was employees from the post office. Than the mail tamepring started.  It seems to be happening much more in the south and the southern baptist church has now embraced it for financial gifts. It just amazes me how Chrisitans could be so hoodwinked into commiting crimes and what is in my eyes attempted murder. The Roswell GA sheriff office stated they would do nothing to protect my life just file reports since they do not want to step on an FBI agents toes. I must say someone should break his and put him in jail instead. The Washington DC Crime Victim Hotline gets 1000's calls a month. Large Corporations as Siemens or the Inland US Management Company are companies who practice gang stalking. I worked for both I know. But the DOJ seems to be on vacation and local law enforcement at times are the ones instigting it for these corporations some of tehm are large defense contractors too going after Whistleblowers. I think a Nationa task force should be establisehd to stop and eradicate this eveil which has taken over our nation. Or use the the National Guard to stop it since local law enforcement is not doing their job. Someone ahs to adress this before we this turns into and epidemc which is appoaching fast. I just had another job set up as a 4 people attack team. When I told the man who was the leader,that I treated him with respect and please at least treat me like a human being. He told me to f...myself  and fired me. He made me work almost 60 hours a week on hourly pay and only paid me for 40. Stated he does not pay overtime and he gets away with it, because the department of labor looks the other way since he was paid to harass me. We are a nation of law  but the law has  been MIA for much too long. I had 11 years of this abuse and it does take its tall. I ws even harassed and terroized at the Florida Hospital 15 minutes before heart surgery, I jsut rpayed and said God pleaase let me get out of here alvie. When your income is taken away and the right to make a lviing and constant expenses put on you, I had no health insurance, you cannot hire an attorney. I prayed my heart out but evil happens when good man do nothing. It is time to take our country back and demand this group and gang stalking to be stopped NOW. In my case many foreigners were used and given visa's or citizenship to stalk and harass.....There is something wrong when a State Department turns into organized criminals .......All I want is my life back or enough money to leave and go somewhere where they still have law and order......I would have never believed this could happen till I became the victim of a pyscho FBI couple .....

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PeaceFrog

     I do not believe the FBI is directly harassing citizens (in most cases). I have been gang stalked for many years and have blogged about it. My belief is that the FBI has trained a vast group of informant snitches and enabled them by teaching them COINTELPRO tactics including technical surveillance. These groups, in my belief, are being used in hopes of ensnaring high value ultimate targets (ex: mafia, narco-traffickers) into civil rights conspiracies. This is a type of large-scale social engineering. The TI's are just bait, the stalking groups are a set up for the ultimate targets. The whole thing has structural government support and is very much like the MCcarthy era witch hunts.

     The postal involvement is interesting because the post office happens to be a large and rigid civil bureaucracy that is ripe for social engineering/behavioral experiments. Perhaps "going postal" shootings are the result of gang stalking/workplace mobbing experiments by the government. The late writer Charles Bukowski describes street theatre as well as other harassment indicative of gang stalking (police helocopters hovering over his home flashing a spotlight directly at him through windows, etc.) in the documentary The Charles Bukowski Tapes. Bukowski also happened to work for the Post Office for many years and had other factors making him a good candidate for gang stalking experimentation (foreign birth, federal detention for anti-war activities during WW2, etc.). 

     Upon further reflection, I think would be revealing to examine gang stalking within large governmental bureaucracies, such as the post office and military, conducted by the intelligence agencies (civilian and military). The state and federal prison system is a highly controlled environment and it is a likely candidate for early and ongoing behavioral gang stalking activities by the government. It is likely that these settings were used in early behavioral experimentation before the gang stalking mass movement was instigated and unleashed on a larger swathe of the public.

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Anonymously Given

"You cannot hire an attorney ... "  Yeah, they have that end of  things  wrapped up pretty well.  Who can afford to pay $200 per  hour for an attorney?  Our founding fathers understood the  practice of law to be an enabling mechanism for uniform justice.  Subsequent laws made it illegal for any person to practice law  without rigorous, long, and expensive training -- which is part of  the  reason for outrageous legal fees.  The people no longer have  the benefit of that (intended)  mechanism for equal justice.  For  that matter, the same can be said about the health  care system.  It should be obvious to us by now, that the "system" does  not  work for us -- at all.  Why would we want to continue with this   fraudulent system that oppresses the many in favor of the few? 

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lawstuff33

You do not need license to practice law to participate in he legal system if you are doing it yourself, for yourself.

People that hire a lawyer are ones that cannot protect themselves. When you do hire a lawyer, you are telling the court that you are not competent to defend yourself. You do not need to retain a lawyer even if the Judge 'forces' you to. This is fact.

It is relatively easy to learn how to defend yourself in court, if you decide that you even want to go into one.
How about finding a stalker and filing a civil suite against them. All you need to do is prove harm and you can ruin their lives forever. And this goes for anyone else involved too (police officer, agent, whoever, as long as you can prove it). You just have to know how to do it. If you can prove harm or breach of contract, you don't need the police or anyone else to eviscerate the scumbag.

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a211423

Charles Bukowski describes street theatre as well as other harassment indicative of gang stalking (police helocopters hovering over his home flashing a spotlight directly at him through windows, etc.) in the documentary The Charles Bukowski Tapes. Bukowski also happened to work for the Post Office for many years and had other factors making him a good candidate for gang stalking experimentation (foreign birth, federal detention for anti-war activities during WW2, etc.). 

I will have to find this documentary.  I have read his work, but was not aware of the phenonomen of gangstalking at the time. 

Your observations of civil involvement do give us pause to think about the beginnings of gangstalking and its ability to persist in our society. 

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a211423

Characterizing targets as mentally ill.

I recently saw a piece about how the Chinese government uses false diagnoses of mental illness to imprison and marginalize political disonents who follow the centuries old tradition of petitioning the government with grievences.  One of those who has been imprisoned several times related his story.  First, he was beaten by his employers and then lost his job, then diagnosed as schizophrenic.  To keep people like this under the control of the government, they can arbitrarily round they up and imprison them.  This was done before the Olympics to prevent them from demonstrating or causing and problems that would be "embarrassing" to the government, and also it is done before state holidays. 

Here the methods of marginalizing people by gang stalking is covert, but nonetheless insidious.

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PeaceFrog

     The Charles Bukowski Tapes are available through netflix. I think your point about gang stalking being used as a quiet (as opposed to fully-formed police state tactic) is a good one. Since the political re-education of Americans is currently unacceptable, the community-based harassment system channels a lot of the state's motivation into a more covert form. The intended result is the same. The huge crime drop in the last 15 years in most large cities probably resulted from a less destructive form of community policing that somehow got perverted into civil rights abuses seen in gang stalking cases. The starking similarity between published COINTELPRO tactics (identify, disrupt, destabilize, nullify), and, gang stalking (identify, villify, isolate, destroy) are proof, in my opinion, that this movement was started by the FBI. Also, the Technical Surveillance used by these groups are certainly the result of massive infiltration and subagent/agent-provocateur activity (i.e. mishandling informants). Even trained cops screw up bugging and the average gang stalker who is ill-educated and a misfit (in the sense used by Eric Hoffer in The True Believer) is hard to square with the proficiency observed with 24/7 monitoring. Also, the weak-mindedness of anyone who will literally sit an 8 hour shift listening to an ordinary person's life, a person unknown to them, is indicative of either a petty, recidivist criminal or a structurally unemployable misfit. The real horror of the situation is that these idiots are so controlled and exhibit such programmatic behavior that they will be easily re-progammable as witnesses for a federal case pinning this activity on WDC enemies (narco, mafia, cults) who have minimal involvement. Neither the police, FBI, nor marginally successful criminals (organized or not) are weak-minded enough to listen into ordinary people's lives in 8 hour shifts. The FBI, through its sordid history, is fully capable of using behavioral social-engineering tactics to make this happen and to basically frame whoever they want (historically a political target) to pay for their own scheme. To get an idea of the warped nature of the FBI's political policing (i.e., COINTELPRO) read Churchill and Vander Wall's The COINTELPRO Papers. The Europeans may have invented the phrase political control technologies, but, the Americans certainly perfected them.

     As for the state-sanctioned pollitical repression in Communist China a more apt analogy can be found with the role of the Red Guards in Mao's Cultural Revolution. Thanks again for the continuing insightful comments.

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