Will Obama Give Democrats 16 years in POWER? ..Opinion

by djermano | May 8, 2008 at 02:56 am

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The International Institute of Nonviolence

By: Rev. Jermano

Obama and Hillary are destroying the Party by waging this divisive campaign. The Democrats are priding themselves as the Peoples Party by showing the first Black American to run for President while also having the First Woman run for President. The stupid thing is the Democratic Party is pitting themselves against each other.

Does anyone see the Republicans showing this much diversity and ignorance at the same time, by having a white woman and blackman run against each other for the Republican nominee? They are just waiting in the wings for all the disenfranchised from whomever loses to come support McCain.

This has got to be the most idiotic bunch of political organizers to come along since GW Bush, and your refusal to work together is handing the whole show to Bush's murdering Pal John McCain.

Someone has to knock and kick some sense into your brains. Obama you arrogant whitetooth gum head, you should be thinking about helping Black America to support Hillary, and Hillary you saddle-less no-boot mama, should be saying more things about bringing real civil rights compensation to Black Americans, as Rev. King advocated.

It does matter which one of you is President, in assuring a long term confidence plan for Black America and the Democratic Party. Should you flip a coin abd have one be the Nominee and the other the VP nominee? No!

Bring it together and I don't mean a concession speech where Hillary says she wants her people to support Obama, because that will not work. People will still leave angry, and will either not vote such as I, or they will vote for McCain, because really you both are going to support the continuation of the War. ..instead of doing as Rev. King did in his life by supporting Nonviolence.

It would be a wonderful thing and a very smart thing if Obama looked into the future and said he thinks more of Black America and the Democratic Party than himself and his macho ego and would like to be Hillary's VP.

Why; because people would really have a sense of the good nature and heart of Obama given that he is leading the delegate count, and decides to do something to join and bring the Democratic Party and Black America together for the sake of their future. Isn't that what Presidential material does in looking out for his people? If he destroys and runs out 1/2 of the Democrats who won't vote for him, what can he expect in his next round, that is if there is a next round when McCain clobbers him?

Just think, he would cement and solidify for sure, 16 years of life in power for the Democrats, and 16 years of life in Power for himself as America's Black Statesman in Washington. His gesture to step down to be the VP would be a huge step-up for keeping the Democrats in power for a very very long time. And Democrats would be supporting each other, instead of the divisivness that we are having from the for sure fallout of voters to the Republicans if we don't join together with some real acts of kindness and concessions.

Hillary is a no go to be Obama's VP because she will be too old after Obamas 2 terms served. But Obama is not too old, and people would remember what he did for the Democratic Party, in helping the Democrats to stay in power for 16 coming successful years. After Hillary's 2 terms, Obama will be rewarded 2 more terms for the Democrats.

You want to talk about a way to heal the racial divide in America, well here is the chance. Not only would Obama assure his future but I think America will have a brand new Democratic Party, that will become the Obama Party, because of this move I suggest. It has to be one of the greatest political moves in US history and Obama has that chance to do it. Black America will have a Black VP that will be there in helping Black Americans, and then when his time comes all of the Democratic Party will be there for him. How can 16 years of real time help? I say tremendously.

If Obama refuses to show his good nature to assure his future for Black America along with America's Democratic Party in helping to overcome the racial problems we face as a nation as I mentioned; and he decides to take the prize in this 2008 election we can only anticipate that he will only acquire at most 8 years or less for the Democrats, and who knows who will run and can win, after that, because Hillary would be gone.

I just think you politicians and organizers should do kind acts instead of seemingly ego centric winning acts, which always prove in the end to not be winners for the party, but always stinking losers time after time after time. And that includes Republican track records.

So get your act together and do something that will provide long term stability for America so I can support and feel grateful about this Political Establishment in the USA. This maybe the only chance you get. Or I am for sure signing America off as a contemptuous ego manical Failed State and forever live and work against this nightmare called America.

Rev. Jermano

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djermano

at 15:19 on May 8th, 2008

I don't believe that Moonwolf, because why would they impeach Bill Clinton and now be supporting his wife? It makes no sense. Republicans would have a greater threat with Hillary as President who could very well bring investigations into the Bush cabal after they leave office, since her husband Bill would want to show Bush republicans that Sex is not as bad a crime in waging impeachment charges for murder and lying about going to war. Hillary The President: would have that authority to do so. And Hillary would be more effective with investigations as a civil case against them, since Impeachment is shown to be a useless instrument of law enforcement. Obama is no threat to republicans because he has made his hand clear by saying he would not support impeachment, but Hillary has never said a word on the issue.

"Hello Rene"

djermano

at 16:14 on May 8th, 2008

Why then though, if what I say is not possible, is Hillary still running knowing she cannot win and is only damaging the party and possibly the chance for a Democratic victory by handing the race to John McCain?.......The fact is she can't win, and neither can Obama, because they have not reached the required delegate count. It will go to the Superdelegates at the Democratic Convention.... This will be the climax that will eventually bring both camps in the Dem. Party together. Also she is hanging in there because she knows if she leaves, it is all over for the Democratic Party, because many in her party will bolt for McCains Camp.

She cares about the party, and is hoping for my message and that is assuring the Democrats gain a long term agenda if Obama does the right thing for the party instead massaging his ego.

If Obama goes for the President he will be lucky to only get 8 years for the Dems, but if he steps down for VP and supports Hillary it would mean he would step in after Hillary's 2 terms, for another 2 terms on his own agenda. That means 16 years of Democratic control and stabilty in a moving dynamic economy.

I am praying more for stability and long term confidence that will help the markets realize future projects and speculations to mature. We need more stability in America than anything else in order to help the people, instead of the Corporate Repiglicans.

With a party in power that is less militaristic; that spells greater progress, and positive uplifting and image making to the world. This means more strength for Global Warming projects such as the Maglev Electric Superhighway, run on Geothermal Electric Energy.

Geothermal is a forever resource that does not pollute. Just think cars and trucks will drive on roads that have an electric rail where a eletric flap connects to the vehicle to charge it as it drives down the road. When off the highway, fully charged batteries kick in to continue the journey home. This means jobs, and of course many other things, for the people.

Spread the news because Obama can make this happen, and people need to focus more on the longevity of our American opportunity here. 16 years is better than maybe 8 years for Obama to do our work. And if all is going well, perhaps another 4 to 20 years added ..and again. Pray! How great to leave the Repigs in the hog yard where they belong.

djermano

at 16:20 on May 8th, 2008

Seedplanter, why don't you join The International Institute of Nonviolence I have recently started? It is not a Religious Organization.

TheBigRuski

at 16:38 on May 8th, 2008

You think Obama is macho and has a big ego???

Actually, I think he is one of the most humble politicians I have seen in a long time. He even referenced himself as "less than perfect" in his outstanding speech on the recent election day.

Isn't it funny how your skewed agenda paints such a different Obama than any discerning individual that takes a look at him.

djermano

at 05:20 on May 9th, 2008

Ruski: the comparison of Obama with the small lead in the delegate count is his macho ego compared to if he really was a humble politician he would offer to be Hillary's VP for the sake of Black America and for the sake of the Democratic Party and for the sake of Barack Obama.

I guess you didn't read my article.

If you were Obama and had the choice to stick it out for the win in 2008 and know that Hillary will be done with forever, and you know you might not pull it off because 1/2 of the party is angry and will go leave to vote for McCain, and you know if you do win you are only assured 4 years in power for the Democrats maybe 8-. Vs. - You decide to use your lead in the delgate count as a payment for Black America and the Democratic Party to support Hillary first as her VP thereby assuring that no party members will bolt to McCain, and create a Dream Ticket, knowing this will make the odds a sure winner of 8 years for the Party in power, and then "remembering that delegate payment you offered" will make Democrats and Black America "remember" how Obama has been looking out for them since that first election in 2008 will assure an Obama ticket in 2016 leaving Obama in power until 2024 a total of 16 years of Democratic power for the people......which would you choose?

This is no fuzzy math my friend, and no macho skewed assumption. .. Is he for the long term stabilty or is he just fat in the pan? We will know in the coming days. I hope he does what I am talking about, and if not I know he's a no thought out non thinking punk politician.

djermano

at 05:38 on May 9th, 2008

Seedplanter start fighting for what? Playing terror games with the Government? They like terror Seedplanter, in fact they probably are looking for a new terrorist plot to be hatched right now, and will pay someone some big bucks to do it for them. The only way to fight these 2 face criminals is not fighting. Don't give them an enemy to use and wage war with. That's what the war is in the world, the war between Violence vs Nonviolence. Nonviolence wins everytime. So I guess you haven't made that commitment yet right?

Rob Walker

at 09:28 on May 9th, 2008

Um aside from the fact that this article completely ignores all the math regarding it being *impossible* for Hillary to win (unless there's an upset at the democratic convention like in '68 when there was riots after McCarthy lost the popular vote and the superdelegates voted in Hubert Humphrey).

The last thing the dems want on international tv is another massive riot, especially since they've essentially got this election in the bag.

The unannounced superdelegates have almost all said they would not go against the popular vote or the member with the most delegates.

Also, it's quite disturbing that you have this nonviolence group and your headline reads: "Hear this 'Obama and Hillary' or you're both dead!" A joke or not, a death threat in the headline is pretty hypocritical for someone who is pushing nonviolence.

djermano

at 16:01 on May 10th, 2008

Get Real Man.

Rob Walker you didn't read the article, which does the math quite clearly to what is at stake for the Democratic party in seeking power for a significant protracted time.

It has nothing to do with delegates. It has everything to do with Obama, who could make the decision to be Hillaries VP for the sake of the Party and Black America. It doesn't matter if he has a lead in delegates, but if he uses those delegates to join Hillary and tells the Democrats he is doing it for the party to remain in power for 16 years, he will gain greater character and fame for such a decision. He will be thinking of the party and the Democratic people instead of his short sighted self interests.

The title has nothing to do with death threats, but is a fact if Obama goes for the nominee, and 1/2 the party bolts to vote for McCain. Obama will not be in the driver seat and makes it all the more a risk with McCain. Obama Kills Hillary so McCain can kill Obama is the scenario. For you Rob I will think of another Title.

Instead of Obama supports Hillary as a team, to kill McCain, which would keep the Democrats in power in Washington in the White House for 16 years. What is it that you don't get here?

Even if he miraculously did beat McCain he still would only be a 4 year hoping to be an 8 year gig in time of power for the Party. Hillary supports the idea that he will become President if he plays ball with the other half of the Democratic Party, but not until 2016, when her 2 terms end.

This means Obama can be in power as VP from 2008-2016, then President from 2016-2024.

What in the world is wrong with that?

If he doesn't go for the 16 year opposed to only a possible 8 year plan, then he and Hillary are dead. Because McCain will be there, and everyone will know Obama threw this opportunity away because of his ego.