Zulu warriors and other important thing on my mind today.

by Babel-Fish | November 27, 2009 at 05:36 pm

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The Zulu's lost and now they have won, hmmmn: Perhaps they should won really, then Africa would not of been exploited. Sadly at this time and date the British where just as bad as the American's when they ruled the world. In fact possibly even worst.

The elite have all ways ruled and its not changed the greedy buggers will always dupe the common citizen and send their children to war for their evil gains. We common folk need to wake up to the fact we are being used.

I agree those Zulu's that died to protect their country should be honored now what about honoring the Iraqi's that died for their country. No that will never happen but Iraq was raped for its oil and gas. USA wanted to control its supply.

Africa was raped for its gold and diamonds now oil is the ingredient that attracts greed. Ironically oil has possibly caused a pollution that has changed earths climate and its value will decline because of a sudden switch to much cleaner fuels and solar energy etc. The greedy elitist have to switch their profit making else where, possibly wars will all fade into history, wouldn't that be something?

Yep this Zulu story started me stirring my coffee and thinking we are living in strange times where problems of the past are causing many of the problems we are seeing now. Perhaps I will see peace in my life time the very peace that Churchill forecast and dreamed of will sipping champagne and eating oysters in his war room under the war office in London.

Perhaps the forth coming meeting in Copenhagen will be the answer to many more problems than that concerning pollution. A world that is not reliant on oil could not only be cleaner, greener but more peaceful.

Hail the Zulu warriors

The catastrophic defeat at Isandlwana on the Natal border in South Africa on Jan 22, 1879 has largely been overshadowed in Britain by the dramatic defence of Rorke's Drift later the same day, which featured in the Sir Michael Caine film Zulu.

That battle, which pitted a tiny garrison of fewer than 140 men against 3,000 heavily armed Zulus, came to symbolise the Anglo-Zulu war but distracted attention from the battle five miles away at Isandlwana, where a 1,750-strong British force was overwhelmed by 20,000 Zulu warriors.

More than 1,300 of those defending the isolated position were massacred in what remained the most catastrophic loss of life for British forces until the First World War.

The Anglo-Zulu war was brought to a close in August 1879 with the capture and exile of the Zulu king, Cetshwayo, and the integration of the territory more fully into British controlled South Africa.

Now about 10,000 Zulu warriors who died in the war are finally to be given a formal monument, to be erected by state of KwaZulu Natal.

Because the Zulu army kept was no official paperwork, Amafa. the state's heritage body, has embarked on an ambitious oral history project to draw together as many names as it can from local families.

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Hugh Askew

at 18:02 on November 27th, 2009

"I agree those Zulu's that died to protect their country should be honored now what about honoring the Iraqi's that died for their country."

Will those that died while defending their homes and homelands from the rapacious Zulu's be honored as well?

Shaka Zulu killed and slaughtered on a scale far greater than many of the nastiest dictators in history. He was as renowned for his cruelty as he was for his skill as a military leader. To accuse the victor, while absolving the loser, is folly.

If we honor the fallen Iraqi's we we honor those brutally murdered by the same Iraqi's?

Babel-Fish

at 18:44 on November 27th, 2009

That was an excuse and the diamonds and gold where not the main reason for British control?

That there was a bad bad dictator in Iraq so we go change the regime and kill the dictator, of course the oil is not important.?

Shaka was a murdering power monger and actual Saddam was not such a bad old dictator.

Have you seen whats happening in Zimbabwe? No ones bothered about the murdering criminal dictating that said poor nation.

Iraqi soldiers were trying to protect their country falling into enemy hands and be exploited, they where just a bunch of patriots. Years after Iraq s handed over whats the bet they will be honored at a later date?

Its not good to give these Elitist excuses we are being used and indoctrinated, lied too. They are in game of making money and a personal war on communism which scares the hell out of them.

Hugh Askew

at 03:57 on November 28th, 2009

No, sorry Babel-Fish. That wasn't my question. I asked if those that died under the reign and rule of the oppressors - Saddam Hussein and Shaka - will be honored.

Gave no excuse for the Britsh, or the Americans, but to condemn them without condemning those that preceded them is hypocritical.

Both Saddam Hussein and Shaka were far beyond either the US, or the British, in their capacity for cruelty and for their manifested unjustness. Had either had the capacity to make war to the degree that was possessed by their conquerors, you would perhaps be writing a different story.

Uwe Paschen

at 18:17 on November 27th, 2009

The Zulu were originally a major clan in what is today Northern KwaZulu-Natal, founded ca. 1709 by Zulu kaNtombhela. In the Nguni languages, iZulu/iliZulu/liTulu meansheaven, or sky. At that time, the area was occupied by many large Nguni communities and clans (also called isizwe=nation, people or isibongo=clan). Nguni communities had migrated down Africa's east coast over thousands of years, as part of the Bantu migrations probably arriving in what is now South Africa in about the 9th century A.D.The Zulu formed a powerful state in 1816 under the leader Shaka. Shaka, as the Zulu King, gained a large amount of power over the tribe. A commander in the army of the powerful Mthethwa Empire, he became leader of his mentor Dingiswayo's paramountcy and united what was once a confederation of tribes into an imposing empire under Zulu hegemony.

On December 11, 1878, agents of the British delivered an ultimatum to 11 chiefs representing Cetshwayo. The terms forced upon Cetshwayo required him to disband his army and accept British authority. Cetshwayo refused, and war followed at the start of 1879 . During the war, the Zulus defeated the British at the Battle of Isandlwana on January 22. The British managed to get the upper hand after the battle atRorke's Drift, and win the war with the Zulu defeat at the Battle of Ulundi on July 4.